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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 07-19-2010, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys just got thru reading paul matthews book "the paper jacket" and was wondering if any of you have tried paper patching with a handi or the 45/70. Thinking about getting started and wondering if i need to throat the barrel or not. I'm not sure if its just alot of work for very little gain or would it be fun to do. Oh well any info is welcome
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Paul Matthews is among my heros. "40 Years with the .45-70." I never tried paper patching, but I'm just beginning reloading. I may well try it.

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same here about mr. matthews i also have just started reloading as well.
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I have done a bit of paper patching mostly for a old over bore Russian got it to work pretty good after a lot of work and help from the guys over on castboolits.gunloads.com. I would think the 45-70 would be a natural and should be able to use the existing chamber just fine. I know that a lot of guys use a .451 - .452 pistol bullet patch that up to your groove size load her up and blast away. Don't know what you are trying to acheive but would give the castboolits a serious look they have two forums devoted to the paperpatch.
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i've patched a few in my sharps... and its has nice results. never dida handi before.
i like the way mine shoots with my jacketed handloads.
one day, when i grow up......i'm gunna try patch'n my 120 !!!

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I've tried them quite a few times. You can use the stock throat, but it's easier to extend it about .200

I sized to .452 and used Seth Cole 8 lb tracing paper. It's good and strong:

http://www.modernss.com/shopping/fam...d_3585_cat_226

Lube the patched bullet with a light wipe (a little on your finger) of SPG lube or Rooster Jacket.

Paul Matthew's book is a great source.




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Just a question, not a bash...

Are you wanting this for the novelty of trying it? What's to be gained with the extra processing time and complexity over Liquid Alox or modern jackets or gas checks? I had heard of this, but only thought it was being done for reproduction groups. That's why I'm curious. 8)

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45-70 works incredibly well with paper patch and smokeless powder. How about 300gr. bullets cast from nearly pure lead at 2000 fps, no leading, and 3 inch groups at 200M? Besides, you can even get the right size dies with no effort. Size bullets to .452 in a Lee push through sizer, patch with 10# drafting vellum, size with .459 push through sizer, load and shoot. No gas checks needed, no bullet lube, and as soft an alloy as you feel like. I'm a convert!

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You are correct i'm thinking of doing this for the novelty of it and the history behind paper patching. No bashing on your part i understand your logic that is what is keeping me from trying it( more work for same results) Also when i go to the range i was looking for a little wow factor not to mention i love to tinker and this doesnt involve me having to get someone to fix what i have broken I will check out the guys at castboolits and possibly try it out. Thanks for the input.
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Also, check the guys at Shiloh and BPCR:

http://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/

http://www.bpcr.net/forum/


There's a ton of paper patchers over there.



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