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Default Finally success with cast and the 44 mag Handi

After trying off and on for the past several years I have found a load my rifle likes. These are each 3 shot groups. Only 25 yards but heck even if it opens up 2 or 3 times the size at 50 yards I am still happy. Mine is one of the 44s that have had accuracy problems. The only other load I found to do any good was the 300 grain XTP.
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Nice Groups!
What dia. bullets?
FWIW, I use as large a cast bullet as comfortably fits into a fully fire-formed case mouth; this fills the all important throat with as much lead as possible minimizing the possibility of accuracy ruining gas cutting and blow by.
After that you do not resize cases, just de-cap, re-cap, throw powder and seat bullet.....shoot, repeat.

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Those are .433 Dardas 240 grain. I have tried them before with various powder but this time I used Universal. Amazing what a different powder will do.
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.433? Wow. Mine likes them big too.
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Congratulations! The trick mine needed was .434" bullets. Haven't had a problem since I got lucky and got an oversized mold. Before then, with my .430", I may as well have used a slingshot with the lousy groups and keyholes.

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I would like to get a mold that will cast large enough for this gun. I have a Lee TL 240 that I have worked over with some lapping compound. Jut not had time to cast this winter. The thing I dislike about the Lee 240 mold is the nose. It has a small nose and the edge are rounded. I may put the 357 max on the bench this November and try the 44 again. My desire for that gun was to shoot plain based bullets at a moderate velocity. I think I have done that.
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I know NOE sells molds in the .434" range, but if you're hoping they're in the same price range as Lee, you'll hate me for mentioning them when you look them up. EXCELLENT designs though, so might be worth it if you like this gun and want to keep it fed. I have also had luck with one old Ideal (pre-Lyman) 429421 mold that casts at .435", but that was just a matter of getting lucky, and not what they usually cast at.
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Great shooting there!!!

There were two cures that I found for oversized bores...

1. http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant...Code=ZBJ-44MAG

The website really doesnt do these bullets any justice. Its 132.00 SHIPPED per thousand and they always seem to have them.

2. Try Bayou coated bullets...not sure why they dont advertise custom sizes. You will like the Hi Tek. I think that they go up to .433 but I always ordered .432. In two different colors red for H110 loads and green for Unique loads. 23.5 H110 or 11.9 Unique will get you 2-3 inches at 100 yards. Thats good for cast I think.

http://www.bayoubullets.net/44-calib...r-swc-1000-ct/

I cast my own now and size to .431 to get them uniform then powdercoat with the bullets warm for even coating. Usually hits .432-.4325 for most that I test. Best performance is from the Lee 429-310-RF. Mine drops at a consistent .432 and I cull all outside of 302 and 303 grains. They shoot 2 inches at 100 yards pushed with 22 grains of H110 and max crimp from a Lee FCD. I seat with a 45 Colt seater and crimp with a FCD to prevent shaving.

Good luck and great shooting.
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I would like to get a mold that will cast large enough for this gun. I have a Lee TL 240 that I have worked over with some lapping compound. Jut not had time to cast this winter. The thing I dislike about the Lee 240 mold is the nose. It has a small nose and the edge are rounded. I may put the 357 max on the bench this November and try the 44 again. My desire for that gun was to shoot plain based bullets at a moderate velocity. I think I have done that.
research "Beagling" on the Castboolits site, it is well explained there, and many swear it works very good.

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That's stacking them close, even if at 25 yards. Great shooting, I use Universal in most of my pistol loads, shoots great and is clean burning to boot. Take care, John.

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