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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 02:21 AM Thread Starter
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California's solar power glut...

http://www.pe.com/articles/governmen...-produced.html

Reading between the lines (see the last line of the article) reveals how they're planning to soak the little guy to make up for their waste...

"Meanwhile, utilities are moving toward time-of-use pricing for home electricity customers."

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post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 10:43 AM
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I see the article as short-sighted. Battery technology for use with solar power has advanced to the point where Hawaii gets a very significant part of its electricity from solar by day, and solar stored in batteries by night.


The proximity of sunny desert and the large populations of southern California are a natural fit, and with a few refinements that can be made over time, it is possible that they will get most of their electricity from solar+batteries.
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Those solar farms sure do take up a lot of acreage. I've seen people roof their house with those solar panels with out checking on the local weather pattern history. First sizable hail storm they are history. This goes for the farms also, we have great sunlight out here but the destructive hail storms are becoming more frequent. I saw one over by Big Springs that had a fold over set up where during a storm alert heavy vinyl protection covers would fold out from underneath.

High winds are another problem and we sure get that also. If the wind can skin off a metal roof it wouldn't
have any problem doing that with those panels. If it couldn't lift them up it will just tear them to pieces.

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The only problem with that is that this stuff actually works and it's reliable.
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The only problem with that is that this stuff actually works and it's reliable.
The technology has improved since the days I had to work on that stuff. It had a lot of drawbacks early on, mostly battery and rectifier related.
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It's still got plenty of bugs in it, but the advances have been amazing. I expect the refinement to continue to the point where it has a solid niche in energy production.
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Another thing that I'd like to see is putting a stop to the retreat from coal. Coal has a niche, and the technologies for using it are better and cleaner than ever.
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Another thing that I'd like to see is putting a stop to the retreat from coal. Coal has a niche, and the technologies for using it are better and cleaner than ever.
On the same page there Conan. Some grades of coal are very clean burning almost like natural gas.
Around here it's the wind farms we have plenty of wind lol. Liberals think they are unsightly.
I don't, not anymore than the windmills in Holland are.
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You should see central Illinois ! I drive thru it regularly and the number of wind generators has exploded in recent years. They must be working. The last time I read about them (which has been a while), they cost a million bucks each. About ten years ago, most of them hardly ever seemed to be running. Now they all seem to be running most of the time. That's a flat area that's all farming. It's just miles and miles of miles and miles. The people who live there evidently don't care what their surroundings look like. It's ugly by day naturally. The wind generators didn't make it any uglier, just different. At night the place looks weird because of all the flashing red lights on top of the generators.
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You should see them over by Big Spings on top of the Caprock. I bet there is 200 of them up there.
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