Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Why do you say they are made with lower quality steel? What steel was used with the Valmets and what steel is used for the Finn Classics? Have you shot the Finn Classic rifles?
Never said the barrels would not interchange. In fact, I have no idea. I am just trying to find accurate FIRST HAND information about the Finn Classic, which seems to be lacking. The Valmet I owned fit me "OK", but am pretty sure a stock designed from the get go with the proper cast for a lefty would fit even better. And the FC can be ordered with a lefty stock.
The appearance of the Finn Classic is much more appealing to me, modern stock design and I like the chrome finish. Own enough expensive doubles, looking for something powerful that will not break the bank and has a durable finish.
Not here to knock the Valmet, my interest is in feedback on the newer Finn Classic
Your comment about the 412 being obsolete and perhaps lacking in parts sounded to me like you knew something i didn't? But, now it sounds like that's not the case, as 512 parts and bbls always could be fit to the 412 in the past. SO, parts and bbls. should be no concern to anyone who buys a used 412... (they rarely need any parts anyway)
I use to be a Valmet distributor, and i sold a lot of custom bbls through my shop. My gunsmith always told me the 412's had the best steel he had ever seen in a firearm, but all that changed when Valmet sold the 412 design, and my over seas friends confirmed exactly that. They told me the new guns didn't hold up like the old ones. I consider that to be reliable info, as they and my gunsmith were folks i trusted.
I go to many of the same forums you go to, and i read the same 412/512 comments. Some of what i see posted about 412's is absolute BS, and every once in a while i do expose it. Most times i shake my head and let it pass. One of the biggest piles came from Mac, who post a lot, but doesn't always tell the truth.
I sure don't give a rip what anyone buys, but i do like to read accurate info on Valmets, as i do know something about them.
BTW, there were some 412's made in chrome too.