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Just a random thought on this "Only begotten" Does that term not imply "given to/ received from"??

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do you mean as in "given life to " and ''received said life from your father '' ?
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IR2. Please consider this quote.

There is nothing in the world so damaged that it cannot be repaired by the hand of almighty God.

I encourage you to know this because without this certainty we should all of us be mad.

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Why does Doctrine matter? Doctrine connects us to the drama of the story of Christ in history.

The ultimate test of our spirituality is the measure of our amazement at the grace of God.

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Just a random thought on this "Only begotten" Does that term not imply "given to/ received from"??
Past participle of BEGET---- bring into existence by reproduction.

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I may regret responding to this thread a second time but since folks are getting off track: Beget begotten etc means what Bob says in ENGLISH, but since John wasn't written in English; the words you are looking to define, as discussed in the thread I linked to originally and in the "Study of John" thread, are "monogenes" and "egeneto" and other conjugations.

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I may regret responding to this thread a second time but since folks are getting off track: Beget begotten etc means what Bob says in ENGLISH, but since John wasn't written in English; the words you are looking to define, as discussed in the thread I linked to originally and in the "Study of John" thread, are "monogenes" and "egeneto" and other conjugations.

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Monogenes
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  1. single of its kind, only
    1. used of only sons or daughters (viewed in relation to their parents)
    2. used of Christ, denotes the only begotten son of God

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do you mean as in "given life to " and ''received said life from your father '' ?

No, more like given from somewhere/some one/someting.

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Past participle of BEGET---- bring into existence by reproduction.

That opens up a big can of "worms."

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Just a random thought on this "Only begotten" Does that term not imply "given to/ received from"??
I found this to be edifying; https://www.gotquestions.org/only-begotten-son.html

I think it is better to keep begotten in the context of the Nicene Creed. " . . . begotten Son of God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father by whom all things were made.
The important thing to remember is that though Christ is born of the Father, he is coequal with the Father.

As for the OP being a troll, my post about studying first is there for anyone who challenges the Gospel.
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That opens up a big can of "worms."
No it does not.
Jesus was born of a woman like any other person.
The man Jesus is the only biological son of the Father.
God made Adam from the dust, and Eve from a rib, so why would it be impossible for God to make an egg fertile?

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