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31 At that their eyes were fully opened and they recognized him; but he disappeared from them


does flesh and blood do that...........just disappear ?
Flesh is energy.
God knows all the laws of physics.

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Same way it walks on water, yep.

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When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12

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I view the Trinity this way. If you have ever seen the Borg on Star Trek. They are multiple entities, but they have one conscious.

I believe God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate entities, but they are of one conscious.

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no me thinks not
John 14:28*Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than*I.

well imagine that...............Jesus saying that God is greater .
so much for being co-equal .

John 5:19 American Standard Version
19*Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things so ever he doeth, these the Son also doeth in like manner.

if Jesus was co equal John 5:19 should not be in the bible
Think about it this way Swimmer. In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Now, christ was conceived by the power of God---that is the flesh was made in Mary and it was human flesh but God the Word entered her at some point later--still being the eternal God and never relinquishing anything but His throne. The scripture says that He made himself a little lower than angels
Not an understandable thing for man---but then speaking things into being is to me much more non-understandable but none the less still a truth.
Having said that---I don't expect you to believe it because you can't !

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Think about it this way Swimmer. In the beginning was the word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Now, christ was conceived by the power of God---that is the flesh was made in Mary and it was human flesh but God the Word entered her at some point later--still being the eternal God and never relinquishing anything but His throne. The scripture says that He made himself a little lower than angels
Not an understandable thing for man---but then speaking things into being is to me much more non-understandable but none the less still a truth.
Having said that---I don't expect you to believe it because you can't !

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its more like this.
In the beginning of Gods creative works . God caused the one know as the Word to come into existence ,and the Word remained in the heavens with his God assisting God with all the rest of Gods creative works.
Apart from him not even one thing came into existence with out his help.
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its really very simple . but for some unknown reason you's try to make it so much more difficult
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Then maybe it's complex and you oversimplify. There are at least two options.
Just be careful when trying to break up a fight. One never knows what will "be at hand".

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Greek interlinear of John 3:16:

16 Οὕτως
16 thus
16 Adv

1063 [e]
gar
γὰρ
indeed
Conj

25 [e]
ēgapēsen
ἠγάπησεν
loved
V-AIA-3S

3588 [e]
ho

-
Art-NMS

2316 [e]
Theos
Θεὸς
God
N-NMS

3588 [e]
ton
τὸν
the
Art-AMS

2889 [e]
kosmon
κόσμον ,
world
N-AMS

5620 [e]
hōste
ὥστε
that
Conj

3588 [e]
ton
τὸν
the
Art-AMS

5207 [e]
Huion
Υἱὸν ,
Son
N-AMS

3588 [e]
ton
τὸν
the
Art-AMS

3439 [e]
monogenē
μονογενῆ ,
only begotten
Adj-AMS

1325 [e]
edōken
ἔδωκεν ,
he gave
V-AIA-3S

2443 [e]
hina
ἵνα
that
Conj

3956 [e]
pas
πᾶς
everyone
Adj-NMS

3588 [e]
ho

-
Art-NMS

4100 [e]
pisteuōn
πιστεύων
believing
V-PPA-NMS

1519 [e]
eis
εἰς
in
Prep

846 [e]
auton
αὐτὸν ,
him
PPro-AM3S

3361 [e]

μὴ
not
Adv

622 [e]
apolētai
ἀπόληται ,
should perish
V-ASM-3S

235 [e]
all’
ἀλλ’
but
Conj

2192 [e]
echē
ἔχῃ
might have
V-PSA-3S

2222 [e]
zōēn
ζωὴν
life
N-AFS

166 [e]
aiōnion
αἰώνιον .
eternal
Adj-AFS

17 3756 [e]
17 ou
17 οὐ
17 not
17 Adv

1063 [e]
gar
γὰρ
indeed
Conj

649 [e]
apesteilen
ἀπέστειλεν
sent
V-AIA-3S

3588 [e]
ho

-
Art-NMS

2316 [e]
Theos
Θεὸς
God
N-NMS

3588 [e]
ton
τὸν
-
Art-AMS

5207 [e]
Huion
Υἱὸν
his Son
N-AMS

1519 [e]
eis
εἰς
into
Prep

3588 [e]
ton
τὸν
the
Art-AMS

2889 [e]
kosmon
κόσμον ,
world
N-AMS

2443 [e]

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its more like this.
In the beginning of Gods creative works . God caused the one know as the Word to come into existence ,and the Word remained in the heavens with his God assisting God with all the rest of Gods creative works.
Apart from him not even one thing came into existence with out his help.
That actually makes no sense at all, even if you try to distort the Bible, you cannot get that out of it.

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