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For a third time, stinking unelected judges have tried to stop our President from protecting us from terrorism. I believe President Trump should ignore the traitorous liberal judges and do whatever is necessary to keep terrorists from invading our country.

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When is it treason?
1. When it violates the Constitution
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2. When you live in a country like Russia or North Korea
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For a third time, stinking unelected judges have tried to stop our President from protecting us from terrorism. I believe President Trump should ignore the traitorous liberal judges and do whatever is necessary to keep terrorists from invading our country.

I don't know when it's treason, but the president's powers in matters like this have few limits, and it sure looks like Trump is within his powers to restrict the flow of people from selected countries. The thing I don't understand is how a judge can come to a conclusion other than that, and how a judge can override the president's authority.
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I don't know when it's treason, but the president's powers in matters like this have few limits, and it sure looks like Trump is within his powers to restrict the flow of people from selected countries. The thing I don't understand is how a judge can come to a conclusion other than that, and how a judge can override the president's authority.
I am with you.

There was a law passed many years ago that gave the President to unilaterally stop immigration from any given country. It does not specify the rules or reasons. The dems and judges are claiming he is doing it based on religious reasons which the law does not specify. He is perfectly within the law. Carter done it many years ago and he was never questioned. I think the Democrats are the ones that passed the law to start with.

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Article I Section 8 of the Constitution:

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization

Title 8, Chapter 12, US Code 1182, courtesy of Cornell University Law’s website:

(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.

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Oh Doublebass, you're such a hater. There you go quoting those dead old white guys again. ;-)


(I do like the use of the word aliens in that document. We should use it more often when describing aliens. For example illegal aliens, criminal aliens, etc.)
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Ok. You did half the work. You found the relevant parts of the Constitution that ostensibly support Mr Trump.
Now you need to look up what those judges found that provided the basis for stopping the implementation.
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You know--- all those "brilliant" (and they were) dead white guys started from SCRATCH--- there were no rules and guidelines they had to follow. They could have created a monarchy--- an oligarchy--- or a government with ONE branch, or TWO--- but they set up 3 -- read 'em--- THREE co-equal branches. Longest running democratic republic in history I believe-- I would say they knew what they were doing. Deal with it.
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Oh Doublebass, you're such a hater. There you go quoting those dead old white guys again. ;-)


(I do like the use of the word aliens in that document. We should use it more often when describing aliens. For example illegal aliens, criminal aliens, etc.)
Shame on me for not continuing the "living, breathing document" narrative.

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Ok. You did half the work. You found the relevant parts of the Constitution that ostensibly support Mr Trump.
Now you need to look up what those judges found that provided the basis for stopping the implementation.
Why look it up; those phony treasonous judges just made it up. Those so-called judges have been taken to the woodshed by some of the judges they serve with and rightly so. In matters of security of our nation and it's real citizens, no judge and no court can supersede the judgment of the President. What the left wing judges are attempting is a political coup and that is an act of treason against the President and the American people.

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