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When someone tells me they've killed a copperhead I assume they've killed a Northern Water Snake until I've seen it personally, especially if the story involves water. When someone tells me they've seen a "water mocasin" or "Cotton mouth" around here I assume they know very little about snakes.
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Was in the woods last night shootin pigs, Had a lil copperhead cross trail right in front of me, did't say or do nothing cause my buddy wudda fainted and i wudda had to pack him out!

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When someone tells me they've killed a copperhead I assume they've killed a Northern Water Snake until I've seen it personally, especially if the story involves water. When someone tells me they've seen a "water mocasin" or "Cotton mouth" around here I assume they know very little about snakes.
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I know what snakes are what. Lets see,,,the ones with rattles on their tails are rattle snakes. And then theres the rest of them. As you see I dont discriminate. They are all snakes.

Gen 3:14. And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Thats about all the reason I need,well except for I just dont like snakes.
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I know what snakes are what. Lets see,,,the ones with rattles on their tails are rattle snakes. And then theres the rest of them. As you see I dont discriminate. They are all snakes.

Gen 3:14. And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life. 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Thats about all the reason I need,well except for I just dont like snakes.
Now that just aint live and let live philosophy pardner! ;D It does remind me of the BC comic strip of old though!

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We have a lot of "Cotton Mouth Water Mocasins" in the deep south. If they are around, near, or in the water, have a dark coloration and a wide head, it is more than likely one of these. When they open their mouth it is white inside with fangs. I don't think they live too far north of Dixie due to the water freezing.
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There's plenty of cotton mouths in the glades, so if your fishing lure gets stuck on some weeds don't go sticking your hand in for it.
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If they are around, near, or in the water, have a dark coloration and a wide head, it is more than likely one of these.
Anybody ever see what was called a black water snake? I've heard about 'em. Not poisonous I was told. Looked like cottonmouths. Acted like cottonmouths...

Every snake I ever killed that looked and acted like a cottonmouth WAS a cottonmouth! But I've been with friends and seen a black snake slither into or drop into the water from an overhanging branch when we approached and been told "that's just a black water snake." Looked like cottonmouths to me... :-\

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Got lots of black water snake out here AtlLaw. They've got a pointed tail, and not a blunt one like a cottonmouth.

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Yep, those black water snakes in the south do sure look like a Cottonmouth to me too. Can't tell much unless you are up close. Never saw a copper color water snake down here. Copperheads look like leaves, and don't bite until you step on them or get real close. They must think their camoflague hides them. At least rattlers give you a warning.
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Dukkillr, I see you live in Kansas. Copperheads coloration look like leaves in the fall, brownish and orangish looking (copper color) varied in diamonds on their back like a rattler. They just lie still if one is walking or working around them thinking they are camoflaged. If you get too close or step on them, they snap back and bite you. They are a pit viper so they have an arrowhead shaped head copper colored. They are not usually found around water but in leaves, trash, and woodpiles. Very easy to step on one going down some wooded trail. Their size is smaller than a rattlesnake but can get up to 3-4' long. 50% of all poisonus snakebites east of the Mississippi are Copperheads, with the rest split between rattlers and Cottonmouths. Best to wear good boots and snake chaps from early spring to late fall down south or keep your eyes on the trail.
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Dukkillr, I see you live in Kansas. Copperheads coloration look like leaves in the fall, brownish and orangish looking (copper color) varied in diamonds on their back like a rattler. They just lie still if one is walking or working around them thinking they are camoflaged. If you get too close or step on them, they snap back and bite you. They are a pit viper so they have an arrowhead shaped head copper colored. They are not usually found around water but in leaves, trash, and woodpiles. Very easy to step on one going down some wooded trail. Their size is smaller than a rattlesnake but can get up to 3-4' long. 50% of all poisonus snakebites east of the Mississippi are Copperheads, with the rest split between rattlers and Cottonmouths. Best to wear good boots and snake chaps from early spring to late fall down south or keep your eyes on the trail.
Oh rest assured I know what a copperhead is. I grew up in a house on the south side of a wooded broken rocky draw. They were common in the rocks and wood piles, particularly in the warmer days of spring and the warmer days of late fall when they would sun themselves. But I also bowfish a great deal, particularly in swampy, marshy areas and small ditches and creeks. I see dozens of Northern Water Snakes every year. They look a lot like a copperhead in color and pattern, but only slightly duller and with a rounder head.

The point of my post was that most of the time when I hear a guy with a big puffed out chest talking about his mano-a-mano with a "copperhead" or a "water mocasin" they are generally wrong about what they saw. I simply choose to be skeptical until I've seen the snake myself.
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Me too. I let a non-poisonus snake slide. I do however kill poisonus especially around the house, usually not in the woods. I did see a black runner or coachwhip snake come by my house one time, fastest snake I've ever seen.
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dukkillr, trust me when i say copper head , not much water near my house . Also we have cotton mouths in the swamps here . Not many water snakes here big as a mans fore arm. Guess we are well educated here as we can compare them almost side by side on most fishing trips .

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