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I've had this rifle for a long time. It's a Ruger 77/22 with a Volquartsen barrel chambered for .22 Shorts and clips also modified for Shorts. I just got the surpressor this January so have only got a couple squirrels with it. I hope to do a lot more hunting with it next fall. With .22 Eley Rapid Fire Pistol (Shorts) it's OK to almost 50 yards and with CCI High Speed Hollow Points its good for 60 yards. From the shooters position the supersonic hollow points sound a lot louder than the subsonic pistol ammo. However, when 60 yards behind the shooter on a windy day I could not hear the report with the supersonic ammo. I think the reason is that they are barely supersonic so probably drop to below the speed of sound in 50 feet. Also, that's a 16-1/4 inch barrel with a 5-inch long silencer and the stock is a fiberglass Brown-Precision. The scope is a 2-7X Leupold Rimfire and the barrel is coated with black Teflon.

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Why is it chambered for only Shorts?

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That is cute!
22 Shorts dont seem to scare away the squirrels as bad; pop one, sit in place and another comes out pretty quickly. We used 'em as kids 'cause they were cheaper and the squirrels seemed just as done in.
Ive been using the newer-gen 22LR quiets and such, sub-sonic anyway, and they have been just the thing for my yard varmint control when I want/need more than CB's (havent seen those for sale for a LONG time!). I like using a cartridge that fills up its chamber and dont have a dedicated 22Short chambered gun.

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For a lot of years there were quite a few rabbits and I had a need for them. My hunting buddy and I both ate them plus I had an aunt who took a lot of them and an uncle on the other side of the family who liked to have big rabbit fries for his friends and himself. When there was snow on the ground my hunting buddy and I would shoot a lot of the roadside ones and preferred not to make much noise as getting farmersí attention isnít good even if youíre not causing any trouble. We tried CBís in my buddyís regular bolt action .22 and sometimes they jammed and accuracy was not real good. The rabbits were often in plum thickets and instead of the bullets going where we aimed they would hit a twig and ricochet away. I decided to build a higher quality rifle especially for that use. In theory the smaller the powder capacity of a cartridge for the same bore size, the less noise it will make. Thatís because the pressure in the first part of the barrel is higher and the pressure at the muzzle is lower for the same velocity. That is probably true but before the silencer, the barrel had a length of only 18 inches so probably made as much noise as a rifle chambered for a .22 Long rifle with a longer barrel. But after shooting lots of rabbits and squirrels with it mostly with the 900 fps Eley shorts Iím convinced that because of the lack of a sonic crack animals hit with it get less panicked and donít run off even though it may actually not kill them as fast as high speed hollow points would. For a rabbit or squirrel past 40 yards I generally put in a clip with CCI High Speed Hollow Points. They are only rated at 1,105 fps but they expand enough at 50 yards to make a head-shot rabbitís eyed pop out. I think that hardly anyone shooting them would think they werenít shooting a .22 Long Rifle if no one told them, at least for rabbits and squirrels. On larger, tougher animals like jack rabbits I think there would be a noticeable difference. However, Iíve killed lots of backyard raccoons with the subsonic Shorts with headshots and they couldnít tell the difference. It has also accounted for a fox and a few woodchucks with subsonic shorts.
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We used 'em as kids 'cause they were cheaper and the squirrels seemed just as done in.
Me 2! I learned a lot about stealth when I was a kid hunting tree rats with my Rem 514 single shot and shorts! Like you said they were cheaper.

Sit, sneak up to real close range and try for a head shot.

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I have shot as many as 8 squirrels off one tree with 22LR ammo out of my Ruger 77-22lr. I think it is body movement more than a shot with a 22 that puts them down.


Now am using the 22 hornet so a little bit louder but will reach out a lot farther too.


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I too find that body movement is what scares them away for a while. I love my bolt actions for accuracy, and my levers and pumps for just plain fun; but I squirrel hunt with a semi auto. After I fire, I freeze for a while. No motion whatsoever, and the squacks come right back out. I don't use shorts or CBs because they don't operate the autos so well. Even with long rifle ammo, the squirrels aren't so bothered, provided they don't see movement.

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Richard, Im sure you hunted with your Remy 514 and long pants too, (we still have my wife's old 510X; it is amazingly accurate!).

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Im sure you hunted with your Remy 514 and long pants too,


Okay, but this took me a minute since I remember my father telling me he never wore long pants 'tll he joined the Navy in 1917! I had to go back and read my post!

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