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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 10-05-2014, 06:06 PM Thread Starter
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Default Colts and .45 Cowboy cases

Just picked up a pair of Colt SAAs in .45LC. Planning on using .45 Cowboy short cases with BP and smokeless loads. Any recommendations or advice?

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I don't know about the short cases. But I am very aware of the real Colt SAA's. You are a fortunate fellow. You said you "picked them up." I can't imagine picking up one gun that valuable, but two of them . . .? I'd sell my wife's lapdog for a real Colt SAA.
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Last I read up on a test of the short cases vs the full length there was a definite accuracy improvement with the long ones. Typical revolver accuracy loading procedure and bullet size to fit the bore, even if it requires getting the cylinder mouths reamed, should be followed.

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I would stay with standard case. Shortening the case will have a longer bullet jump. You could use blackpowder, and Trail boss for a nice smokeless load.
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The 45 Cowboy cases were intended for use in SAs with 45 ACP cylinders using the small charges of smokeless powder and lighter weight cast bullets used in SASS competition.

If you have them you might as well try them if you haven't. Otherwise I would suggest using the Schofield cases for BP loads. They have been used in the Colt SAAs for 140 years with satisfaction for a "lighter" load. Personally I have tried the Schofield and Cowboy cases and saw no real benefit of accuracy or consistency when fired in the 45 Colt cylinders. The Cowboy cases are a remarkable improvement in both accuracy and consistency when used in the 45 ACP cylinder in my Uberti "Evil Roy" SAA. However, since neither the Cowboy or Schofield feed reliably through my M1873 Carbine I stick with 45 Colt cases. Actually I do shoot a lot of 45 ACP cast bullet loads through the conversion cylinder but not in competition as it is not SASS legal.

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I wouldn't fool with them myself. Not unless you plan or running pop gun loads like they do in cowboy action shooting.

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They have a place, just not in any of mine except maybe the TALO Ruger 45ACP Birdshead, and it works just fine with ACP brass (I dont shoot any of those 'regulated matches').

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SASS type shooting should have to use ammo that is within say five or ten percent of original loads in velocity and have to use the 255gr. bullet in .45 for example. Otherwise why don't they just move to pellet guns or something.
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The way things are going here they might have to........It has happened elsewhere.

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some posts disappeared. remember no load posting unless you reference a manual you got it from. Keep the load posts to the reloading section

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