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post #21 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-18-2015, 10:39 AM
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The 'New Model' Ruger Blackhawks are more of the Colt's Mdl P size and are my preference. If you plan to shoot high end loads consider getting the Bisley unless you have handled one and just dont like it; they soak up the recoil better. FWIW, I avoid shiny guns with fixed sights because the sights tend to be polished too and I cant get a good sight picture. If your model of choice is SS with adj. rear and has a pinned in front blade it is black and replaceable with, ta da, my preference, undercut target blade (because hits are always better than misses).
I suggest getting the convertible 45C/45ACP also, it is nice to have the option and the 45ACP is sweet, efficient cartridge in a revolver.
Let me qualify that a little. Ruger has done a special run of Talo flat tops in .45 Colt along with some other calibers. However, my new made earlier this year gun is a regular old blue .45 Colt/.45 ACP convertible and is still made on the Super Blackhawk size frame. So actually, some are made on the smaller frame and some are made on the larger frame. I prefer the larger frame, as I'm reloading some really stout loads of 2400 and IMR 4227 under some Hornady 250 gr. XTPs and this gun really rocks and rolls with those loads. My only problem is that I want another in the 4.625" barrel as a woods walker gun. Can somebody loan me some cash,.......please?
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I would Lpete, but I just bought another Ruger........only umpteen more and I will have one of each model : :P

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There is always one more I want... And the guys I hang out with are just enablers. My local gun shops start pulling out single action revolvers when I walk in.

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post #24 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-20-2015, 09:43 AM
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Since there has been mention about old vs new; you might try to find an older model Blackhawk. I've found that the older models just function smoother than the new. If you have a few extra $$$'s to burn, find yourself a three screw model. These are getting rare, especially in 45 Colt, and generally cost a bit more. While the Rugers don't look as "pretty" or "authentic" as the replicas, they will last a lifetime and can take a beating and keep shooting well.
The only other revolvers I'd hold up to the strength of the Rugers would be very expensive revolvers such as the Freedom Arms or Magnum Research revolvers. If you're lucky, however, you might find an old Herters revolver on Gun Broker. These are heavy revolvers that are probably just as strong as the Rugers. I'm not quite sure if they made them in 45 Colt, but if you ever find one, the actions are very smooth. Believe it or not, if I had a nice Herters single action sitting next to a Ruger single action and had to make a choice, I might just pick the Herters. The biggest drawback would be parts availability.

Just a few extra thoughts beyond Blackhawk.
If I am not mistaken that herters was made by jp sauer and son. They were imported and sold under a few brands in the 60s and 70s. They are only safe with normal or light loads based on what I have read here and other places. I had the one I owned completely apart, I believe that info. There is little to no parts out there, that is why I got rid of the 44 I had. It was labelled as a hawes chief marshall and had jp sauer stamped on the barrel.
You are correct sir! They were imported by Herters (now Cabela's). Here is an article written by Lee Martin with some photos of the Herter's Powermag revolvers, for what it's worth. This article is more geared toward the .410 Powermag but it's a good historical reading. It's my understanding that some gunsmiths had converted these to 38-40. I came across one a few years ago and talked to Lee Martin myself about having one bored to the caliber and he said to leave it be as the cylinders are as hard as Rugers.
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Here is a link to Lee Martin's photo gallery and a photo of a Herter's .401 Powermag:
http://www.singleactions.com/files/4...ag_Herters.jpg
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I'll agree with everyone on the Ruger , while I've never owned a 45 LC I have had a few Ruger hand guns and they are all built like a tank and every one I have seen goes boom every time the trigger is pulled. As others have mentioned they aren't as pretty as some others but they aren't bad looking either. I have nothing bad to say about a Ruger revolver or their rimfires although I'm not a fan of their polymer framed semi autos.
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If I am not mistaken that herters was made by jp sauer and son. They were imported and sold under a few brands in the 60s and 70s. They are only safe with normal or light loads based on what I have read here and other places. I had the one I owned completely apart, I believe that info. There is little to no parts out there, that is why I got rid of the 44 I had. It was labelled as a hawes chief marshall and had jp sauer stamped on the barrel.
The Herter's are plenty strong as I have J. Huntington converting one now for me to a five shot but parts are not plentiful.

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If I am not mistaken that herters was made by jp sauer and son. They were imported and sold under a few brands in the 60s and 70s. They are only safe with normal or light loads based on what I have read here and other places. I had the one I owned completely apart, I believe that info. There is little to no parts out there, that is why I got rid of the 44 I had. It was labelled as a hawes chief marshall and had jp sauer stamped on the barrel.
The Herter's are plenty strong as I have J. Huntington converting one now for me to a five shot but parts are not plentiful.
That is how I understood the strength factor of the Herters. When I was told by Lee Martin that the cylinders are just as hard as the Rugers and that reaming them would cost a reamer per opening, that was enough said that they are tough and strong.
I still long to find another one of these oldies. The one I came across had a super slick action.
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I own several Rugers in 45 Colt..........that said, (my opinion) the EAA Bounty Hunter (not that flat black model) is probably the "best" for the money out there....they are a good solid gun, some say as strong as a Ruger (they do make it in 44mag)........just another option...
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My Uberti, out of the box shoots better than any other revolver I have. Close as you can get to a Colt clone. All around Great Gun.
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Ruger all the way. I have a custom 4" Bisley LC\ ACP and a RedHawk 4" and have to say both are insanely accurate and will handle some SERIOUS handloads.

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