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Why has not anyone manufactured a single-action center fire revolver with a swing out cylinder that ejects and loads like a DA? I do almost all of my revolver shooting single action with DA revolvers. A SA would be a simpler mechanism but I got rid of my SA long ago because of the loading/reloading hassle, especially when the gun was hot or I was hurried.

A feature article in an old Gun Digest mentioned an exhibition shooter who had a custom gun he used in his shows. Is it just another historical artifact like SA guns loading from the wrong side because Sam Colt was a lefty and he designed guns to be convenient for himself and not the majority of shooters?
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Default Re: Why no swing out cylinder single actions.

Don't know about Sam Colt, but I have seen Colt Officers Model Targets advertised as having been converted to single action and one that was advertised as factory produced as a single action. Those are swing out revolvers for target shooting.
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Default Re: Why no swing out cylinder single actions.

I would assume that any double action swing-out revolver could be easily converted to single action only, by having a competent gunsmith remove or file down a few parts. Am I wrong?


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I'd guess nostalgia is a big reason why traditional single actions are how they are. Both Colt and S&W did offer SA only revolvers with swing out cylinders for bullseye shooters. They, I would assume, were unpopular, or they would still be produced.

Really, in the modern DA revolver, there is no downside. Shoot it SA if you desire, and take advantage of the usually crisp SA trigger pull they offer, and still have the option of DA fire for self defense practice.

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I would assume that any double action swing-out revolver could be easily converted to single action only, by having a competent gunsmith remove or file down a few parts. Am I wrong?


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There are SA only conversion kits available for S&W's, and I believe Colts as well. Some might offer a slightly faster lock time than the traditional DA system, when fired SA, but I really cant see anyone, other than, maybe, an Olympic class shooter being able to take advantage of the minuscule reduction in hammer fall time.

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Default Re: Why no swing out cylinder single actions.

Ruger made the Hawkeye back in the 60's, quit production because of poor sales, caliber offered might have played a part in this also.
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I assume you mean in the "colt" configuration? Most of us want SA to look like the traditional guns. Modern DA doesn't havethe same feel, natural point as the old Colts. I am LH and don't really figure the loading gate is more convenient, it is on the side where you use your right hand, which is usually the more dexterous. A lot of lefty designers do think of the major market when designing things. I think Ruger was LH, but you found few of his designs being that way, or even ambidextrous.


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OK, now I get it. You are looking for a cowboy type gun, but with a swing out cylinder.


Yes, I would love to have a Colt Peacemaker or Ruger Vaquero with a swing out. I'd buy it in a second.


But, apparently the big market for Colts and other cowboy guns are cowboy shooters, and they wouldn't give these a second glance. So, no market, and no production.


Closest you can get is a break-top Schofield.


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It makes , but I'm a traditionalist and like the SA's the way the were made back then. Although I love my Ruger SA's, I'd betray my boyfriend if I could have a real Colt, even a 3ed generation. Looks and balance and pointability. The clicks when cocking. The beautiful simplicity. Not a good carry gun, not much of a hunting handgun, extremely slow to reload, but still my favorite of all handguns. The image of a Colt SAA comes into my brain when someone says "forty-five." I think if I had one and the factory fixed sights hit to point of aim with a medium to stout load, I'd want for no more guns.
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