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Offline Mike in Virginia

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1911 ejection problem
« on: March 16, 2010, 09:32:06 pm »
I have a Kimber that throws empties at my head.  After any range session, I go home with a bleeding forehead.  How does one adjust the angle of ejection? 

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1911 ejection problem
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 11:22:33 pm »
By putting on more tension or loosening the tension--Bending.
A new ejector would need to be adjusted also.
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 04:21:00 pm »
Hi,

I had the same problem after I had put an extended ejector in my springer. Check the angle of the ejector and then see if the cases are getting all dented up from not being thrown out properly.  If the port has not been lowered consider having it done.




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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 06:30:08 pm »
Mike:  I'm willing to bet the face of your ejector is pretty flat.  I usually bevel half the face of my ejectors toward the port with maybe a 35 degree angle or so and that allowed the brass to drop more to the right than to my forehead.  I would not try and bend the ejector - it is secured to the frame by two posts with the front pinned in for security.  If you try and bend one of those you are liable to bust it or one of the posts and you are also liable to hang up your slide. 

I would call Kimber and ask them.  They may have used a 9mm/38 Super length ejector but whatever they used should be able to be tuned to keep you from being on the receiving end......

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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 06:56:00 pm »
Sounds like excessive extractor tension, although there's no way to tell without checking it. If you haven't done it before, there are likely instructions online on the proper tensioning of the extractor. There is another cause for brass hitting the shooter's head, but I'm sure Mike doesn't allow his pistol to rise in recoil excessively.
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 08:06:23 am »
I think the problem is more lilely the angle on the end of the ejector rather than the extractor.   Since it's a Kimber, it probably has an extended ejector rather than a military style ejector.   Check the angle of the Ejector and if it is angled up, or straight, you can file it to give it a slight downward angle.  Try not to change the overall lenght of the ejector any more than you have to.

If it has a military style ejector (i doubt if it does) then replace it with an extended ejector.   

You might also want to go with a stronger recoil spring to reduce the distance the cases fly.

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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 08:26:56 am »
Here's some good material on extractor/ejector tuning:

http://www.brazoscustom.com/magart/ejection%20perfection.htm
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 03:43:43 am »
My 90's springer does that at times too.  I get hit right in the middle of my forehead.  I guess if we get hit right the case mouth could cut us.  I found the ejector to have sharp edges and burrs on it so i figure it wasn't functioning properly.

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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 04:31:14 am »
ive got a alloy commader kimber with the dreaded external extractor that does this too. I wont touch it though as this gun has gone  well over 10000 rounds without any missfeed or malfuntion. I have to laugh when i hear people badmouthing the external extractor. Ill like with an occasional piece of brass flying at me to have a gun thats a 100 percent reliable.
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 05:51:25 am »
Many times all that is require is to strip the slide off the receiver, and a few (5 or 6) passes with a not too agressive file, over the face of the ejector will change the trajectory of spent brass. Emphasis on the lower portion of the ejector face.
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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2010, 03:14:02 pm »
I appreciate all the remedies recommended.  You guys know a lot about 1911s.  I think maybe my problem has resolved itself.  The gun is fairly new, but past the break-in period.  I fired it and kept firing it on two recent outings.  Can't explain it, but the cases are no longer banging my head. 

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Re: 1911 ejection problem
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 01:10:12 pm »
I will never bad mouth or bad write anything about a guns design even though its different.  My star pistols have external extractors too and they all work awseome and even my CZ's too.

I think its a matter of tweeking it to get it right.  Making a minor adjustment is no biggie.   I guess we can all it "tuning" to make it correct.

 

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