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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-17-2007, 07:09 PM Thread Starter
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I will finally get a chance to shoot my renegade in a couple if weeks, its a 54 caliber and i am using hornady 425 grain, great plains bullets. I have some loads ready of 90 and 100 grains of FF black powder.I will be hunting black bear this fall from a ground blind with shots 20-40 yards. Will these loads be good , or should i work up to the max of 120 grains of powder?
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-18-2007, 05:53 PM
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I have an Investarms Sportized Hawkens in .54 cal. I ended up with using 75 grs. of 2f and the same Hornaday GP bullet. I actually found the lower charge to be more accurate and less damaging to my old shoulder. I think if you research it, you will find that in this case less is more. Try the lower charges next time you go to the range. At the distances you are talking about, I don't think you will be disappointed.

You may want to try the Maxi-Hunters and Maxi-Ball bullets. They shot extremely well in my gun.

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post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-18-2007, 08:51 PM
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I have two 54 caliber Renegade rifles and love them. The Great Plains bullet over 90 to 100 grains ( or even 80 grains) of FFg is plenty for the type of hunting you mentioned. I also agree that you may want to try the T/C Maxi Hunter and Maxi Ball conical bullets. My rifles shoot both quite well. Good hunting.
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post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-18-2007, 10:12 PM
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Yes, by all means try some of the different bullets. Me thinks you may want to back down from the 90-100 grain loads. Consider that the .45-70-405 is more than enough gun for Black Bear.
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I have a .54 hawkins my dad bought from dixie gunworks many moons ago. We found that the maxi ball over 90 grains of ffg to be just the ticket. I have only shot deer with set-up but I believe it would put a big hole in a bear as well. I used this rifle to kill my first muzzy deer with 60 grains of ffg and it put a hole through her and kept right on going to who knows where.
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I used this rifle to kill my first muzzy deer with 60 grains of ffg and it put a hole through her and kept right on going to who knows where.
Exactly the point I was trying to make. It is not necessary to power stuff these front loaders with large amounts of powder. 60 to 70 grains of 2F will do just fine under most conicals or PRB's. No sense in blowing out your shoulder just to prove a point that you can handle it. Don't believe me? Try doing some penetration tests and see for your self.

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post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old 07-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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I will be taking my .54 renegade to Colorado for an elk hunt this fall. Decided to work up a load for the maxi-ball that I cast from a mould I got for a good price off Ebay. I am using a TC hunting tang sight with the original post front sight. I have had the rifle for 20 or more years and have always used 90 grains 2F with round ball. Very accurate and pleasant to shoot. The maxi-ball weighs 405 grains-I have a 2 grain tolerance. Just got back from the range a couple of hours ago. My load for this bullet is 110 grains of 2F. The bullet is lubed with a really cool lubing tool I also found on Ebay-I use TC Bore Butter Bullet Lube (comes in plastic jar and is thicker than bore butter in tube). This load shoots one ragged hole at 25yds, about an inch and a half group at 50 yds and about 3-4 inch groups at 100 yards. I chronographed the load today with an average of 1350fps. With a 100 yard zero, bullet impact at 25yds is about an inch high and at 50 yards is about 3 inches high. Recoil is tolerable for me, but I shoot alot. Also noticed I can shoot several shots without cleaning and there is no effect on accuracy or loading difficulty.

I also tried 120 grains of 2F to see the difference in velocity and recoil. Added 75 fps (to 1425) but it was a painful 75fps. No need for this in my opinion.
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Thanks for all your help , a few others mentioned to me also that the lighter grain loads would work.I'll see how the 90 and 100's shoot and give the lighter loads a try. I guess the 120 grain loads would be for longer range or maybe even for elk. Thanks again Tanoose
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I only have one thing to say for 120 grains of ffg and a gp bullet in a Renegade, ouch. By all means, drop that charge.
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I only have one thing to say for 120 grains of ffg and a gp bullet in a Renegade, ouch. By all means, drop that charge.
Bill
I agree, and oh yeah -- it is also a big waste of powder.

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