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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-30-2016, 06:26 AM Thread Starter
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I have owned two ARs. One was a DPMS and one I built myself. I never had any problems with either. I just could not warm up to the black plastic quad rail tactical styling. I just never formed that "bond". Both were sold off after a very short time. :'(

But I recognize the AR 15 platform is solid and dependable firearm and I really do want one. :

I am giving it another go. This time I am going with a more organic approach with an A2 style wood stock, pistol grip and forearm. In addition it will be chambered in 358 mgp. I just ordered the barrel and dies for that round. It is a legal round for all deer hunting in my neck of the woods. Hope this makes it a bit more loveable. ;D

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I have owned two ARs. One was a DPMS and one I built myself. I never had any problems with either. I just could not warm up to the black plastic quad rail tactical styling. I just never formed that "bond". Both were sold off after a very short time. :'(

But I recognize the AR 15 platform is solid and dependable firearm and I really do want one. :

I am giving it another go. This time I am going with a more organic approach with an A2 style wood stock, pistol grip and forearm. In addition it will be chambered in 358 mgp. I just ordered the barrel and dies for that round. It is a legal round for all deer hunting in my neck of the woods. Hope this makes it a bit more loveable. ;D

I like the sound of that! I had never heard of the 358 mgp so I looked it up, sounds like a great wildcat. 35 Remington performance in an AR is very cool. Plus I'm a lefty like the guy who created it so having the lefty 6.8 option from Stag is cool too. Good luck with it!

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To be totally honest, I don't love AR's either. At least not in the way you describe it. There's nothing romantic or nostalgic about them. They're just plain black plastic, aluminum, and steel. That hasn't stopped me from buying one and keeping it ready to go, just in case. I agree - there's nothing more appealing to the eye than a beautiful bluing job accented by a good old-fashioned walnut stock. AR's do, however, have a few redeeming qualities that have earned them a permanent home in my collection.


Good luck! I hope you're able to find those redeeming qualities this time around!
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Well I am working hard on this relationship. I ordered a pure AR aka unfinished wood stock set and just got it done and fitted. I have collected all the parts for assembly and will put together for function testing in the next couple of weeks.
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That's the best looking "black" rifle I've seen yet! Great Job!!!!!

What do you mean plan B didn't work and you need duct tape and safety wire?????????
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She 's alive! Put everything together Saturday. Loaded up some 200 gr SP and h110 to do some function testing and fire form brass. Threw on scope went out on our first date. Little rocky at first. She would fire the round and eject but not feed the next round in. I knew the gas block position probably had to be the issue. I had to ream up the end cap hole from .750" to .875". to fit the barrel. So I dressed the edges where reamed getting rid of any hanging metal. I also torqued the barrel on at exactly 30ft lbs and the gas tube went in on the first try. However, it did rub on the side of the receiver inlet. I put the barrel nut wrench and gave it just a tad more torque and then reseated the gas turned/block assembly. No perceptible contact this time. So I reassembled, but did not put on the wood hand guard. Went back out and this time she went through 5 rounds without missing a beat. Before I put the hand guard back on I noticed that it was contacting the gas tube on one side. A little more Dremel work with narrow drum sander and it too was clear of any contact. Now fully dressed and ready I took her out again. 20 rounds and no failures. I think I am feeling it. Recoil was not much. The bass formed nicely. Next step is to decide if I stay with standard feed ramps or modify them to use pistol bullets. I am leaning towards modify, but will want to talk with Mike at MGP to get some more info.
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Cartridges for My Entertainment: .223 Rem, 30-06, 38 spcl, 357 mag/max, 358 MGP, 35 Whelen, and soon the 358 Norma Mag. I can't right now I am going hunting!
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I made up my mind. I am going to modify the A4 feed ramps today to more of a 7.62x39 style to allow a wider selection of bullets. I will take some before and after pics to show my work good, bad or ugly. Anyone have any last minute advice on how to reshape feed ramps?
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Ok. Done. I plugged the chamber with a foam earplug and taped off my work area. Only goofed once cause I failed to tape up the inside top of the upper receiver. Dremel skipped and took off some of the finish . Taped it up right afterwards and kept chugging. I used a combination of dremel grinding stone shapes and a steel rod with 500 grit and 1000 grit sandpaper wrapped around it to shape and polish. I then loaded two dummy rounds each with the following bullets: 200 gr RN, 200 gr SP, 180 gr XTP, 158 gr XTP, and 220 gr cast HP bullets. All of them fed fine by allowing the BCG to slam home and stripping the dummy cartridges from the magazine. All ejected fine and none were mis-shaped upon inspection. The cast bullets required light mortaring to extract. Not sure why. Next up is to finish fire forming my first batch of brass and testing the various bullet shapes for reliable feeding and tweaking the feed ramps if necessary.
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I was not sure about wood on an AR. But that is sexy! Nice job on the ramps too.


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