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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 09-16-2016, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Hunting moose my canoe rolled and my rifle disappeared into swift murky water of about 4 feet.


I went back a few days later, water had cleared and dropped about a foot.


thanks to my Garmin GPS, I walked right to the spot and there was my rifle & scope in about 3 feet of water.


The stream did not carry the rifle very far at all - so not that deep, not especially swift so appears gun didn't bang around much.


Rifle took quite a bit of rinsing before I could open it up - sand had washed into most spaces, except I tape my muzzles and little junk was in the barrel.


I've taken everything apart and its been drying in the boiler room for several days.


All seems ok but I'm wondering how to check the scope:


Its a Bushnell Elite, 3200 3-9 x 40. Seems clear and I see no damage except for maybe a dent on one of the adjustment covers.


I don't want to get out in the field and find it fogs or is otherwise damaged.


What can you recommend?


Hope to reassemble everything and test fire tomorrow.

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Default Re: scope submerged for 2 days - seek advice

you can bring it from the warm house to
the cold outside or vice versa, and if it's
going to fog i would think that would do it.
or you can send it back to the factory for
a refurbish job. or get a leupold.
glad to hear you found your rig. at least
murphy didn't kick your rear too hard.


aside: is it a wood stocked rifle ? after
it gets dried out your zero might have shifted

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: ) yeah I expect to try the warm to cold and visa versa - might even put in the freezer.


I got this scope used right here on GB as I saw so many folks liking the Elite 3200 series. I figure if it holds up from this adventure I'll have more confidence in it.
Used to have a couple other Leupolds on this- like the Rain Guard on this Bushnell so far.


Stock is an old HS Precision foam and aluminum unit so it has bee pretty impervious to water. Several seasons its been out in the rain for weeks.


But all worth a check. I've been considering updating the stock as their newer ones have some improvements over this 1981 version - but hard to argue with frequent 1 inch groups at 100 with 180 and 200 gr bullets in 300 win mag.




thanks for the comments


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Congrats on getting your rig back. Them Elites are great scopes. Good luck!

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Default Re: scope submerged for 2 days - seek advice

I had a friend that had something similar happen, his stayed under water for about 6 weeks...He brought it to me, I took the rifle apart and cleaned and oiled it, when we checked the zero it was off by about 2 inches...I rezeroed and it's been fine...I'd say if the scope didn't get water inside then it's ok...His was a Remington ADL with a Leupold VX-II...
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there a decent scope. Id about bet its still fine

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here are some comparable targets. The first one was shot at 100 yds about 3 weeks before the dunking. The 3 shot group on the left is with IMR 4831 and 180 gr Nos Accubonds.

And the second target, I started at 50 yds not knowing what to expect, using some mild loads with pulled 150 FMJ - have never got those bullets to shoot very well but good for cheap practice.

The 120 yds 5 shot group used some pulled Sierra 180 gr Game Kings that also have not shot well but again offer cheap practice.

Note the 2 shot "group" is the remainder of the 5 loads I built using IMR 4831 and 180 gr Nos Accubonds - same load as the pre-dunk 3 shot group. I wish I had loaded more than 5 or had loaded 3 more for the "after" testing - didn't think of it.

I'm satisfied that the scope survived as well as the rifle. Very relieved.

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pre dunking target - 100 yds from the bench. I think the right hand 5 shot group is with 200 gr Swift A Frame - the load I've been using for moose lately.



post dunking 120 yds from the bench - for hunting I prefer to Zero at 170 yds - max for our range but range was due to close soon and I was hurrying.



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i was given this 4x12 steel weaver that spent several days in a flooded cellar, i let it dry out and cleaned it up some(glass is clear). i have it on a old 98 mauser that has shot very good in the past, i will check it out to see if the weaver will hold zero and be fog free. its not pretty, but if it works it will go on a bad weather rifle. eastbank.
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I your submerged rifle has a wooden stock, it may have absorbed water. That could explain the change in your point of impact. I expect the scope is fine.
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Stock is structural foam, fiberglass, aluminum. Don't really think I had much change in impact that can't be explained by the variety of trial ammo I used.


Hate to burn up the 200 Swift A frame loads where the bullet along cost more than a $1 per each.




So used the cheap stuff to start.

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