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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 06:56 AM Thread Starter
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My eyes aren't the youngest but my new FX-II 4x handgun scope seems to have the crosshairs maybe a few degrees off from being aligned with the flat surfaces of the scope caps. I asked Leupold if this was POSSIBLE but got an answer to a question I didn't ask; they just recommended a more accurate way to determine. Have any of you had this issue with a brand new scope? I plan to send it back. They cover shipping anyway. Just wondering.
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I have read of many people experiencing the issue - some got satisfaction from Leupold, others were told it was "within tolerance". Good luck.

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My eyes aren't the youngest but my new FX-II 4x handgun scope seems to have the crosshairs maybe a few degrees off from being aligned with the flat surfaces of the scope caps. I asked Leupold if this was POSSIBLE but got an answer to a question I didn't ask; they just recommended a more accurate way to determine. Have any of you had this issue with a brand new scope? I plan to send it back. They cover shipping anyway. Just wondering.
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Curious, did you use a level on your firearm and compare the reticle to a hanging vertical piece of string?

When I set my scopes, I use a hanging vertical string and a magnetic level on a flat surface on my firearm if any.

This inexpensive procedure trues my reticle to my firearm. I ignore the adjustment caps.

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Im almost 64 and have had astigmatism for years and wear glasses. For quite a few years I have 'detected' the hor. hair as crooked when the vert seems straight up/down; it is my eye and not the scope!
The good thing is that I hit with the center(intersection) of the hairs. I dont 'level' the gun via the hor. hair but by the gun; ie, where it is comfortable for me to hold consistently, and when I tried shifting the scope for the hor. to be level the slanted vert. hair REALLY messed with me!

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Im almost 64 and have had astigmatism for years and wear glasses. For quite a few years I have 'detected' the hor. hair as crooked when the vert seems straight up/down; it is my eye and not the scope!
The good thing is that I hit with the center(intersection) of the hairs. I dont 'level' the gun via the hor. hair but by the gun; ie, where it is comfortable for me to hold consistently, and when I tried shifting the scope for the hor. to be level the slanted vert. hair REALLY messed with me!
OK, so it might help if you can verify the vertical crosshair against a known vertical hanging string.

This takes the guesswork out.

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We call that a plumbob

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We call that a plumbob
I use a plumbob at my job for leveling aircraft for weighing and other measurements. The heavy weight is pointed for scale verification.

All is needed is a vertical string for reference.

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Im almost 64 and have had astigmatism for years and wear glasses. For quite a few years I have 'detected' the hor. hair as crooked when the vert seems straight up/down; it is my eye and not the scope!
The good thing is that I hit with the center(intersection) of the hairs. I dont 'level' the gun via the hor. hair but by the gun; ie, where it is comfortable for me to hold consistently, and when I tried shifting the scope for the hor. to be level the slanted vert. hair REALLY messed with me!
Interesting. I've never heard of astigmatism causing that. I just put my Mark-AR into the mail to Leupold. If I assume my vertical cross hair is actually vertical, the horizontal is canted a couple of degrees counter clockwise. It drives my crazy!

I also have astigmatism, but checked that scope out on several right angle surfaces, like a concrete block wall, and the crookedness is pretty apparent to me. I guess I'll hear what Leupold says shortly.
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I have an Unertl that has a wavy vertical hair, kind of like a will minor S shape. Holds perfect zero however so I just use it that way.
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If the adjustment is not aligned with the crosshairs then either adjustment will have a component of the other induced in your sight in adjustment. This is not good. If the vertical crosshair is not plumb with the rifle, you will have a cant error in your shot. Both of these situations are not what you expect to get. Hopefully you will have neither and then hopefully you will not have the situation where the adjustment mechanisms in the scope are not lined up with the reticle; if you do have this situation, you should feel justified in having the manufacturer fix it or replace it. If they won't do that, demand that they refund your purchase price paid.

Those are my thoughts.

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