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Offline kmittleman

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Ruger M77 Accuracy
« on: November 26, 2011, 08:09:08 am »
Hey Guys,
 
 
Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving! I'm just wondering about the M77's accuracy these days. I see some good deals on them and and looking at getting a new rifle for big game. Anyone have any experience w/ their .300 win mag, .280 rem, etc?
 
I'm also looking at the Remingtons, Brownings, Tikkas, etc
 
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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 01:26:11 pm »
Depends on which "M 77" you are asking about.
 
Early tang safty M 77s - despite the extractor were actually push feed, but had a decent trigger.
 
The next M 77 (the MK IIs) were controlled round feed had notoriously heavy triggers and early models were know to often have dubious quality barrels.
 
Later model 77 MK IIs had better, consistent barrels but still had $hitty triggers.
 
The new M 77 Hawkey has the better barrel (free floated), and a nice trigger.
 
One other major difference.  The early M 77, and the M 77 MK II also had a stock/barrel combination that that included a pressure point on the forend.
 
Now in full discolsure, I own 3 Ruger M 77s.  One Hawkeye and two MK IIs.  The Hawkeye shoots great and I love the new trigger, but despite the fact that the barrel was supposed to be floated, I had to remove a little wood from the forend to actually "float" that barrel.  It is a 375 Ruger and will shoot all day into 0.75 to 1.25 inch ( 5 shot groups) if I do my part.
 
As to the MK IIs, I had to float the barrels on both the 30-06 and the 25-06 to get them consistent.  They would shoot 3 shot groups "ok" but start to wander on the 4th or 5th shot (I suspect because of the pressure point and barrel heating).  Floating the barrel on the 30-06 was sufficient because the factory trigger was right at 4 lbs. (not 3 lbs like I prefer but 4 lbs was OK and not worth the $175 to replace). 
However the 25-06 factory trigger was was close to 7 lbs and that is not fun for a rifle like the 25-06.  Eventually replaced the trigger with a Timney and that ( with the floated barrel) brought the groups down.
 
So in answer to your question, Yes there are a lot of Ruger 77s on the used gun racks -- I have noticed them myself.  If it was my money I would prefer to buy a used M 77 Hawkeye first, then a late model MK II second -- to get a better standard barrel and would expect to have to float the barrel and replace the trigger on the MK II - worst case.  Just MHO.
 
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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 10:24:46 am »
I missed the part about Ruger floating the bbls on the Hawkeyes.  Mine, and all those I've personally handled, have a forend pressure point.  Not an 'accidental' one, but a purposeful one.  Has that been changed?

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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 05:22:59 pm »
I have a Ruger 77 MkII stainless synthetic with the zytel synthetic in 300 Winchester Magnum with a Leupold VX-II 3-9x40 and I love it. The best I have been able to do with it was three shots into one ragged hole at 100 yards with a 180 grain Sierra BT Game King. Very pleased with my purchase then again I only paid $450 for the whole set up so I lucked out I believe. Are you looking at getting a new Hawkeye or a used MKII? I have heard nothing but good about the new Hawkeyes and there triggers are supposed to be leaps and bounds ahead of the old MarkII's I know mine is heavy.

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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 07:48:34 pm »
Purchased a new hawkeye rifle in 257R early this year.  It had a pressure point at end of stock.  Put 60 or so rounds downrange with it and was not happy with the groups it shot.  Due to this, I sanded down the pressure point to free float the barrel.  Was kinda surprised on the sanding it took on the pressure point area to free float the barrel.  Accuracy with the rifle improved, but was nothing to brag about.

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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 02:49:00 am »
I've found with the MKII's if they have a wood stock (laminated or walnut) floating the barrel usually gets them shooting better. My stainless synthetic with the boat paddle stock shot good out of the box. I had a trigger job done on it. My son traded me his laminated factory stock and I floated it and it shoots better now than ever. Torque the front action screw to 65 in/lbs, the rear to 40-50 in/lbs, and the middle screw tightened enough for the floot plate to work properly and you're good to go.
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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 06:53:53 am »
As you can tell from my avatar, I am a great Ruger fan.  I own several of their handguns. I have owned Ruger rifles, but I have never owned a Ruger rifle that shot worth a damn out of the box.  I would love to buy a Hawkeye in 22-250 or 223 but I am afraid it would be just another Ruger long gun.  It would sort of make it to the paper but wouldn't have the sparkling out of the box accuracy I have come to expect out of guns made by Savage, Howa, Tikka, and Remington.  What is it with Ruger? Why can't they understand that the only interesting long gun is an accurate long gun.

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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 09:39:49 am »
The first deer rifle I ever owned was a Ruger 77 MKII stainless in 308 winchester and to be honest it was the worst shooting rifle I have ever had. Hence why its down the road in the arms of a stranger. So I was skeptical when I came across the 300 Win a few months ago but for the price I figured I couldn't lose and its been far and above my expectations. Just luck of the draw with Rugers is all I can figure. My hunting partner has a Blued walnut gun in 270 and it shoots really well and thats all he has hunted with for years. I must admit Ruger does make an attractive rifle.

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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 10:48:00 am »
The ones I have shot were accurate. I have a 300 WM . It has taken a hog and a deer. The hog was 20 yards . The deer was about 260 yards. There was a light breeze and my shot was about an inch to right of where I was aiming . AND yes I was using a rest. I shot the gun just before hunting season at about 280 yards again in  wind and 3 shots were about a 31/2 inch group. When the wind is calm and I shoot at the range at 100 yards an inch to 1 1/2 groups are normal. I have not worked up a load yet , I had 6 boxes of fed ammo and have just used it so far.
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Re: Ruger M77 Accuracy
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 06:40:14 am »
All I've tried in my Hawkeye 30-06 so far are 150gr Corelokts.  They shoot about 1.5" and are responsible for the deaths of 4 deer and a hog.  Furthest shot was 177yds on a doe. Flopped her ass right down.  Scope was only on 4x, so I would have no second guessing about using the same rifle and load out to 300yds with no additional effort on my part.

Not really sure what I would gain in the field at that range by having a rifle that shoots sub-MOA, since @ 300yds the Hawkeye accuracy is still easily within the kill zone.  Over 300, I move up to the 300win in a #1. 

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