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Offline sherppa

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Combo Accuracy?
« on: December 27, 2010, 09:26:17 am »
What can one expect for accuracy out of an over under combo gun?  I have heard horror stories about poor accuracy with some of the Savage 24s?

Your advice and input is appreciated

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Combo Accuracy?
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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 10:50:05 am »
Sherppa,

The savage 24s I've used were reasonably accurate for each barrel. The main problem is you rarely find one that shoots both barrels to the same point of aim. The point of impact can also change as the barrel heats up. On the rimfire models the grooved barrel scope mounting system works ok until you shoot the shotgun barrel with the scope on.

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 11:08:44 am »
  Here's how my Valmet 412 shoots, and you can easily adjust/regulate the rifle bbl. to where ever you want.



  As for the Savage 24's, what Byron said!

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2010, 11:34:19 am »
I have found that the older 24's with the barrels soldered together are very accurate.  I expect 1/2" to 3/4" at 50 yd. groups from the .22 barrels.  The newer ones where the barrels are separated and clamped at the front are generally not as acccurate, but should shoot under 1" at 50 yd.  The centerfire rifle models in my experience are not as accurate, but I have come to expect 2" groups at 100 yd.  I have a .222/20 ga. 24V that will group 1-1/2" at 100 yd.

I can't speak about shotgun slug accuracy except with a newer .30-30/12 ga. that grouped the slugs into 3" at 50 yd.

The biggest problem with 24"s is, as Pastorp stated, both barrels not shooting to the same point of aim.  Some are pretty good, whild others are pretty bad, with the worse problem being a large difference in elevation and windage.  This can, in some cases, improved with reloading and/or trying different factory loads.  I tend to buy them, try them, and replace the ones that aren't even close.

My current crop consists of: .22/.410, .22/20 ga., .22 mag./20 ga., .222/20 ga., .30-3-/20 ga.  The .22/20 was purchased here at GBO and hasn't been tried out yet.

The problem with shooting the shotgun barrel with a scope attached can be taken care of by removing the elevator from the rear sight and placing the forward scope ring against the sight.  This keeps the scope from moving forward when the shotgun is fired.  I don't know how this will hold up in the long run since I haven't fired a lot of shotgun shells thru any of the guns.  The centerfire guns do not have this problem since they accept Weaver mounts.

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 08:40:02 am »
I HAVE A REMINGTON -Spartan 94 --410/ 22lr and it is terrible on all facits. The 22 will barely hold 2 inches in 25 yards while the 410 shoots slugs and buckshot in a 12- 20 inch "pattern at 25 yds  regardless of choke used. Trigger pull was about 12 pounds with lerky creep making any kind of 22 shot almost impossible.
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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 05:20:50 pm »
Sherppa
great question.

Every drilling (Baikal, Spartan, Valmet) I have owned has had a very accurate rifle.  The problem with the combo guns that can not be regulated is typically the shotgun does not have the same point of impact as the rifle.  The Valmets have windage and elevation adjustments.  The Baikal did hot have any adjustments but the shotgun and rifle where regulated very well.  The Spartan was very poorly regulated.  I have not owned a Savage 24.

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 04:25:53 pm »
Thanks Everyone!

I think, I will try to find a Valmet or Biakal, they sound like the way to go.  I am looking for something in the 12 or 20 gauge and a 222 or 223 rifle barrel.

again thanks for the help.

happy new year!

sherppa

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2011, 08:21:20 pm »
Don't know when my Savage was made .30-30/12 Ga but it has a synthetic stock. With my rifle barrel sighted at 100 yds and an IC choke tube in the remington 1oz. foster slugs will print  about 3-4 " near 4-5 o'clock for me. My close friend also has one (same chambering)that is very near the same for accuracy. We are equally pleased with them. We both use the iron sights so we don't have a scope messing up the wing shots on grouse.

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Re: Combo Accuracy?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2011, 09:59:55 am »
Thanks Everyone!

I think, I will try to find a Valmet or Biakal, they sound like the way to go.  I am looking for something in the 12 or 20 gauge and a 222 or 223 rifle barrel.

again thanks for the help.

happy new year!

sherppa

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