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« on: January 25, 2004, 12:06:37 pm »
My did just died and I got my grandmother's H&R hammerless pocket revolver in .32 S&W (short).  I know, originally loaded with 9 gr. FFFG!  

In taking off the Bakelite handles to clean and scrub off some rust I broke a piece of one.  It goes together with nary a line showing, so what's the best glue to put it back together?  Model glue?  Epoxy?  I know I'll have to clean the oil off the joint, but will use alcohol for that.  

Serial # is 142763.  Anybody have any information about date of manufacture?

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2004, 02:38:01 pm »
Wayne:  I would try super glue, and on the serial # issue they start out with a letter (A) for the year of 1940 and go alphetically up one year you need to look for a prefix to come up with a year of production :D    JIM

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2004, 04:23:25 pm »
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thanks for the reply.  I need to get new superglue, I used all that I had.  I know that my grandmother died in 1925, and she had it before then.  I'm guessing in the teens or twenties, but I do not know if it was bought new or used.  She lived in the country in central Maine.  There is no letter code on the serial #.

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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2004, 11:03:24 pm »
Nice old revolver...  I have found before that superglues work best with less porous material..  and have had failures with it on bakelite..  I use a slightly thinned slow set epoxy but for the life of me the name escapes me now.  Thin a bit with lacquer thinner and use that to clean the break.  Be gentle as tiny bits may break off and create a visable defect..  Place of wax paper on a flat surface to set.  Be sure to remove excess before it hardens using the thinner..
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2004, 11:33:24 am »
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I need to find a fireing pin for a win. mod. 67 for my grand son. any idea's
it started like always, fire one miss one untill it misses all the time. any help would be appreciated, thank you and have a good day,  JOE
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2004, 12:29:47 pm »
Some parts are available but most are not You can try GunParts at (866-686-7424).  This is a toll free call.  But first are you cerain it's a bad firing pin.  Is the bolt handle really loose when it is in the locked position?  If not open the bolt and inspect the chamber.  Is the mouth of the chamber, where the pin strikes, dented?  This will not support the rim of the case and allow it to be crushed by the firing pin fall.  Is the spring still fairly stiff?  Any of these may contribute to failing to fire.  Also it is possible to 'stretch' a firing pin.  It is removed and a very light weight hammer is used to gently stretch the pin by forging.  It't can't be stretched a lot and it may require a bit of care as they sometimes work harden and can break.  I the pin is broken it can be welded.  You might try a body shop.  They usually have some people who are experts with MIG welders.  They routinely weld thin, light metal and will be able to handle this problem easily.  Lay the piece on a fire brick to weld and 'V' out both edges of the break.  It should be rehardened after welding as the heat will draw all temper..  My guess is the bolt has worn, and the headspace is too loose.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 02:30:11 pm »
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 I first looked to see if it had been dry fired and do not find any marks on the barrel i then checked the spring and it seems to be ok. i am wandering if the ammo. he was using was part of the problem, i will take it out this afternoon and try it myself, the little gun is like the first gun i had in 1946 and i shot many cartons of ammo. through it without a single failed shot. I want to get it fixed so i can take it to him so he can do his thing,
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 03:09:38 pm »
Wayne ;  The info I gave you was the later manu. the pre 1942 models dont show anything on dating using the ser. #.  however the model #4 was manu. in (1904)  and the Hammerless model in 32 S&W dont show a date Sorry about the mix-up on my part. :D    JIM

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2004, 04:25:19 pm »
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I found what was ailing the 22, there was a ring of crud in the chamber that wasn't letting the cartridge go in so it had no back up, I took a stiff
brush to it and it works fine, thanks again for your input,,  joe
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2004, 11:45:38 pm »
Great!!  The 67's are fantastic rifles.  I learned to shoot a rifle with one..  Taking a kid hunting is always a good idea.
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