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Offline jcn59

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Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« on: August 11, 2011, 05:53:57 pm »
Having trouble finding it.  Minwax has a product called wood filler, & the instructions say to build up a layer then sand down(?)  also says it can be used for nail holes(?).
 
Never been real happy with the Birchwood Casey wood filler.   What should I do?
 
I want something that is made to fill the pores in the wood.
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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 02:02:24 pm »
The commercial fillers tend to contain things like silica and that's hard on checkering tools.. I just use the finish as it's own filler. This can be difficult with some of the plastic (polyurethane) finishes as they tend to set on top the wood.. On oil finishes I use a product called OKeene (sp.) that's a french oil mixture. It doesn't harden very mcu but penetrates like crazy. A of coat of this stuff on a hot wood stock, allowed to cool and set for about 20 minutes then rubbed of and a day between coats to a total of 1-3 will produce a nearly filled pore structure and allow the finish (I use TruOil) to fill the pores completely in very few coats with very little sanding. It also seems to give the finish a bit better resistance to moisture.. 
forgot the poly's-- I use either rubbing poly (available at WalMart) or just thin a bit of regular poly and heat the wood with a heat gun (caution the poly and the thinner are both very flamable!) then apply the thinned material (or the rub on poly from the can) to the stock as it cools. Keep the end and quarter grain areas wet as they cool and any areas that appear dry should be kept wet. When the stock is completely cooled allow it to set until the poly is just very slightly tacky and rub vigorously with a no lint cloth, old blue jeans??.. Allow to completely harden and sand or steel wool very lightly and finish as you wish.
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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 05:28:54 am »
 
gunnut has good advice.  Here is another method to fill pores/grain.  I prefer to use some form of antique oil or Danish oil and coat the wood well with it, letting it soak in for a minute or so.  Generally, I would wet down, lets say, one side of the butt stock.  Then while still wet, not tacky, use a fine wet type sandpaper (320-400 grit) and sand wetted area with the grain.  This produces what is sometimes called a surry which helps fill the pores/grain.  Then while wood still wet (not tacky), use a lint free cloth and wipe off excess, once again wipeing with the grain.  I normally use cloth from an old T-shirt for this.   I then repeat this process till I've worked all the stock.  I may do the entire stock again using a finer grit paper or at least do a very light sanding (with grain again) using 000 steel wool or 500-600 grit paper.  You can use then use a product of your choice for a final coat.....I generally use a wiping polyurethane, like Minwaxs, and apply several coats using it.

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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2011, 01:50:26 pm »
If you are filling holes or cracks or other blemishes , maybe what I have done may work. Saw with a fine tooth saw a piece of the wood or like wood. mix the saw dust with some good quality wood glue . I used elmers carpenters glue last time. Mix into a paste and work into the hole or crack . use a good flat edge to remove excess but don't pull out of work area.
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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 09:32:06 pm »
Thanks for all your help.  A model 70 (1958) chambered in .300 H&H. A horse fell on this stock and broke the bejabbers out of it, or so I am told.
 
The initial work was with epoxy and steel rod by the previous owner.  I did the rest.  The wood was too nice to paint black.  I know the camo scope looks bogus.  I couldn't find a pink one.
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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 01:32:05 pm »
I'm a big believer in using the finish with a slurry of sanding dust from the wood itself.  I wet sand with 400 gr and thinned finish and work it into the wood.  Try Waterlox original finish.  Nothing brings out the color of walnut as well.

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Re: Wood filler for a walnut stock?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 01:44:57 pm »
I've used the sanded in finish but found it more difficult. The hard part is to keep the shaped stock as it needs to be, sharp edges sharp and rounded areas even and flats must not wave!! Also the sanding paper adds abrasive grits to the stock and they are really hard on checkering tools.. I've mostly swithed to carbide tooling for checkering but when steel tools were the only game in town I hated sanding grit.!!!!! ronben that appears to be a good fix.. but the scope does appear a little off..still a great rifle..
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