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« on: January 17, 2010, 04:36:44 PM » |
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Whats the diffrence between the Blackhawk and the Super Blackhawk in the 44.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 05:11:00 PM » |
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grip frames. the blackhawk has the standard blackhawk grip frame and the super has the draggon square tigger guard grip frame.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 05:51:57 PM » |
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The super doesn't have a fluted cylinder and the shorter 5 1/2" super has a grip frame similar to the Blackhawk, only longer in your hand.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 07:53:01 PM » |
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If talking strictly the .44 magnum chambering, the Blackhawk also uses a different cylinder frame as well. It's the large frame NM Flattop one.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 09:31:24 PM » |
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So is it mostly cosmetics, trigger guard and unfluted cylinder, I guess the lack of flutes would make the cylinder stronger, or is there a differance internaly. BlkHawk73, you said in the 44 one has a larger frame ,did you mean the blackhawk or the super . I had a few single actions back in the late 70's and early 80's . I know one was a Hawes 45 a couple of ruger44's and a Virginia dragoon in 44.but dont remember much diffrence between them ,except rugers shot better, Thinking bout gettin another one to deer hunt with .
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 06:28:36 AM » |
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I think what blackhawk was refering to is that it was also made in flattop with even another differnt grip frame. the same grip frame used in the new small vaqueros and blackhawks. I believe that all of the 44s are stamped super blackhawk even the short ones with the standard grip frame and some were flutted and some werent. the 5.5 inch guns were flutted but the 4 5/8s were non fluted then there were the bisley supers and they were non flutted and engraved. Are you confused yet  Bottom line is that there isnt squat differnce in the strenght of any of these 44 mags and you can even throw the old large frame vaqueros in on that statement
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 06:58:22 AM » |
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On some blued models the grip frame on Blackhawks are alum. and SB are steel.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 08:26:17 AM » |
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Have looked at a lot of them of course and thought that caliber was also an issue with the Super being .44mag...could be wrong though?
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 08:28:37 AM » |
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I think the 357 max. was a SB also.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 09:36:13 AM » |
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So is it mostly cosmetics, trigger guard and unfluted cylinder, I guess the lack of flutes would make the cylinder stronger, or is there a differance internaly. BlkHawk73, you said in the 44 one has a larger frame ,did you mean the blackhawk or the super . I had a few single actions back in the late 70's and early 80's . I know one was a Hawes 45 a couple of ruger44's and a Virginia dragoon in 44.but dont remember much diffrence between them ,except rugers shot better, Thinking bout gettin another one to deer hunt with .
It's not just cosmetics. The Super Blackhawk has a little more room between the trigger guard and your middle finger.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 09:42:35 AM » |
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Yep just enough to get a running start before it hits it hard ! And I like the gun !
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 05:16:50 PM » |
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The early "1st gen" 3-screw Rugers Flattops in 44 Mag were larger framed than the 357, but had the same fluted cylinder and alloy gripframe. The Super Blackhawk changed the gripframe to Dragoon size and made it of steel, and did not flute the cylinder. It also changed to the protected rear sight on the topstrap. Ruger also changed the Blackhawk in 357 to the protected rear sight as well.
Old Model Rugers also used the 44 frame for the 45, 41 and the 30 Carbine chamberings.
The New Model Blackhawks, and later the Vaquero, changed to the 44 Frame for all calibers.
The "New" New Model has returned to the earlier Colt sized frame for the 357 and the Vaquero. The New flattop is large framed for the 44 and small framed for the 357.
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