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« on: November 03, 2009, 10:26:16 AM »

  Traveled to SW Montana over the weekend for another whitetail hunt, 4 of us were going for the second time, I used my Lipseys flattop 44 special using the 250 gr slug & Skeeters load of 7.5 gr Unique, this load from my 4 5/8" shortie runs about 925 fps. The other 3 guys were using various rifles.
  Last year we took 7 doe's in 2 days, this year we decided to just take one each & call it good. The locals can hunt bucks but we were just buying the doe tags over the counter, they are $75 dollars & I think you can buy up to 5 of them. Having used my 41 Bisley last year on both of my deer I decided this time to use one of the newest additions to the herd, my flattop 44 special is extremly well finished, Ruger has does a great job on the few I've handled. If you haven't been able to get one just be patient, Ruger has announced they will be a regular catalog item for 2010.
  The river bottoms these little rascals like to hide in has lots of brush, tall grass & hundreds, maybe thousands of big cottonwood trees. Its ideal habitat for whitetails & there are lots of them in this area. Because of the heavy cover it was necessary to try & get elevated somewhat & hope you could catch one sneaking back past the others. I found 2 large cottonwood trees that had fallen & were sloped up to about 8-10 ft off the ground, carefully walking up the slight incline I was able to gain a pretty good view of my surroundings, I was a little more out in the open than I wanted but didn't have much choice so I decided to stay a while.
  After spotting one of the other guys working his way in my direction I waved & he made a wide circle towards the river. This area had a lot of little pools of water that made getting around very difficult, we were constantly having to wade 4-10 inches of water in order to make any kind of a drive towards each other.
  After just a few minutes I spotted 2 doe's sneaking past one of the guys but they were out of handgun range & I just watched them in the glasses, they were moving around in heavy brush & didn't seem to want to leave. Walking down that old tree was pretty spooky, much tougher than walking up it, one slip would have landed me in a lot of thorn bushes & at 65 years old I didn't want to fall 8-10 feet!
  When I got on the ground I knew it would be too noisy trying to approach the alert deer, my best chance would be to ease into the shallow water & try to make a stalk, easing the 44 out of the holster I started closing the gap towards the last place I had spotted the deer. Normally when I get in close on a game animal I cock the gun, place my left thumb between the frame & hammer & carry it in my left hand, this way I won't spook the animal by cocking the hammer, I've done this hundreds of times but only if I'm quite close.
  After wading 50-60 yds I spooked one of the doe's, I had walked right up to her, she blasted through the tall grass & I went to work at maybe 25 yds, she was running broadside & I took 2 shots, cocking with the left thumb & firing, she jumped up a slight incline facing straight away from me & I took one more shot as she disappeared into the heavy grass. The grass had slowed her escape somewhat as she didn't appear to be running full blast, that really helped.
  Walking up the incline I couldn't see her anywhere, too much grass & dead trees everywhere to see more than a few yards. After about 5 minutes of pushing back the grass I almost stepped on her, she had covered 25-30 yds, perhaps only 4-5 seconds & she was down & out, the little 44 flattop was blooded!! Yippee!
  Two of the three shots had hit her, one through the front part of the front shoulders & the second one through both lungs, both slugs exited, I think shot #3 was a miss as she was facing directly away as I shot. This isn't a heavy load but a very good bullet, I've taken much game with it over the years, everything from elk, muleys, whitetails, antelope & bears. It doesn's need magnum velocities to work. Iron sighted sixguns are short range guns, 100 yds or less, it doesn't take 1400 fps with 300 gr slugs to work, what it does need in a good bullet in the right place, easy to shoot & deadly! I love hunting these neat little deer, its much like jump shooting quail, one second nothings happening & then suddenly your hearts in your mouth & all "Pelosi" breaks loose.



Not sure if I was saying Boise State is #1 or if this is my first deer with the 44 special.



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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 10:52:14 AM »

Great story. Good hunt and good shooting. Congratulations!
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 11:57:18 AM »

 That was a great story, well told. The part about climbing a downed tree on a angle, I have done that many times and have had several close calls at falling, usually the bark falls off or the log is already bare and slippery as hell.  I too enjoy using the 44 SPL for deer,  Good Shootin Dick !     Jedman
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 06:26:12 PM »

Great story with the perfect amount of details!

Man! I want one of those little flat tops!
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 09:46:53 PM »

congrats! i love reading this stuff
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 12:28:11 AM »

Great Report!!

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 06:12:06 AM »

sixshot,
Congrat's & Great story. My Ruger 44 Spl in 4 5/8" loves Skeeters load also.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 09:56:14 PM »

Sixshot, I've enjoyed your post over on the Ruger.com forum and happy to see your now over here, also. Your posts are always well done and entertaining.
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2009, 05:42:31 AM »

Great story w/good pics. Cool  Nicely done, congratulations. Grin
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2009, 08:12:14 AM »

I've got a 4 5/8th's 44 special also. I've shot quite a few "Skeeter loads" as well as a 260 WFN with 17.5 grs. of 2400 @ 1100 fps. The gun shoots great. The best load I've shot was a Thompson design 255 gr. SWCGC with either 7.5 grs. of Unique or 7.5 grs. of Universal Clays. I shoots a ragged hole.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2009, 10:48:47 AM »

  John, that 260 WFN sounds like a real hammer! Did you chrono your "skeeter" load, I can't find where I did mine this summer but guessing around 925 fps. The old Ray Thompson #429244 is a superb bullet, I used to have a HP one, wish I still had that mould, dang it! Have you taken anything with your 44 shortie?

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2009, 12:31:39 PM »

nice hunt !
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2009, 12:35:31 PM »

Chronograph results for "Skeeter" load from my guns:

5 1/2 Lipsey's (now Power Custom #5) Avg. velocity 994 fps ES 33

4 5/8" Lipseys                                  Avg. velocity 969 fps  ES 54

John I have also loaded the 260 gr WFN with a GC, but not quite that hot. I load it with 16 gr. and it goes 1191 from the 5 1/2" and 1169 from the shortie.
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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2009, 08:57:13 AM »

The Skeeter load chrono's 925 fps. out of mine. The Universal Clays load runs 960. That 260 WFN with 16.5 grs. of 2400 ran 1050. It seems like I got about 25 fps with a 1/2 gr. increase of 2400. I only use that load for hunting (mostly hogs) and shoot the Unique or Universal loads for everything else. I killed a 200 lb. boar with the skeeter load, (didn't have the 260's in yet) one shot, it caught him through the neck, cutting the jugular vein. He still made about 80 yds., but he was easy to follow.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2009, 04:00:08 PM »

John

Have you shot any critters yet with the 260 WFN? I am curious how they did. I am thinking on using them for deer next week.

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2009, 07:11:32 AM »

Big Muddy, I have not had the opportunity to kill anything with the 260's yet, but i've been carrying them since I got them loaded, so it's just a matter of time.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2009, 09:30:24 AM »

What exactly was "Skeeter's Load"? Type of bullet, velocity, etc.....
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2009, 09:48:48 AM »

A 250 gr. "Keith" bullet over 7.5 grs. of Unique for approxiamately 900 fps. depending on bbl. length.
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2009, 09:59:17 AM »

  Aww, thanks. Basically a hot .44 Spl Keith SWC. Got it.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2009, 12:27:45 PM »

Hot would be Keith's load of 18 to 18.5 grs. of 2400 at 1200 fps. Wink
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2009, 04:47:04 PM »

A 250 gr. "Keith" bullet over 7.5 grs. of Unique for approxiamately 900 fps. depending on bbl. length.
Basically(in todays world), it consists of a Lyman 429421 over 7.5 grains of Aliant Unique powder. Skeeter was one of my hero writers in my youth. Very sensible about loads he chose.
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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2009, 08:38:23 PM »

Thanks for the report sixshot.  Nice shootin'!

Season opens Sunday here.  I'll be trying to bloody my 4 5/8" Ruger / Lipsey special too.   Getting anxious.   Got Sunday and Monday off, if work stays slow might try for Tuesday too.
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