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« on: November 11, 2009, 08:39:03 PM » |
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I've been looking at load data for different powders. So far I have been sticking to IMR 4198 with 405 grain remington jacketed. I have some 405 grain oregon trail on the way. I have some IMR 4064, 3031, and 4895 on hand and have seen data for those. Anyone seen any data for BL-C (2)? That may not work, but I was just curious. I load alot of 308 but only recently started working up loads for the 45 70.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 08:44:51 PM » |
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Depends if you want mild or wild loads. I used to just duplicate BP loads with Accurate Arms 5744 powder for my loads.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 09:43:07 PM » |
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4198 is hard to beat for hunting loads. For light loads, Trail Boss is king.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 10:14:17 PM » |
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I've had pretty good luck with IMR4198. But I tend to shoot low level 2 to low level 3 loads.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 07:53:26 AM » |
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My barrel really likes 2400 for trapdoor Jacketed bullets and Trail Boss for OT cast bullets. Re#7 and Varget are good for Marlin level loads. Actually my 45/70 will shoot just about anything I feed it fairly well. It is by far my favorite Handi barrel. It and I are going deer hunting Saturday. Be afraid deer, be very afraid!  RJ |
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 07:59:20 AM » |
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Ive had good luck with RE7 with 300 grain jacketed & 425 grain cast.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2009, 10:54:57 AM » |
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Check the Hodgdon site for the BL-C2 info, it's listed there. DP
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 12:16:03 PM » |
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I use IMR3031 for both th Handi and my trapdoor just be careful not to mix 'em up.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 01:09:23 PM » |
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For cast low velocity you can use Red or Blue Dot as well, even Universal will work.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 01:15:17 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 01:42:17 PM » |
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I've used VV N133 but I am about to try some 4198.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 02:10:06 PM » |
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I too have had good success with IMR 3031 in my Handi. 58 grains under a 300 gr Hornady JHP will produce a nearly ragged hole at 100 yds and is lethal on Wisconsin whitetail deer.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2009, 09:08:26 AM » |
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HOLY SMOKES PRIVATE SCHULTZ!....THAT IS A HOT LOAD!....I AM ONLY USING 52.5 GRAINS OF IMR3031 UNDER THE 300-GRAIN HOLLOWPOINTS AND I FEEL THAT IS FAIRLY POTENT AT 100 YARDS........
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2009, 01:01:47 PM » |
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I load with Varget and RL-7.
My cousin swears by 3031 in his 45-70.
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2009, 01:13:27 PM » |
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HOLY SMOKES PRIVATE SCHULTZ!....THAT IS A HOT LOAD!....I AM ONLY USING 52.5 GRAINS OF IMR3031 UNDER THE 300-GRAIN HOLLOWPOINTS AND I FEEL THAT IS FAIRLY POTENT AT 100 YARDS........
It may be a hot load compared to yours, but 59.5gr 3031 under a 300gr Sierra @2021fps is still a trapdoor load according to Hodgdon, levergun loads go to 64gr at 2196fps, still at less than 30kcup, both loads are compressed at 2.525" COL. Tim http://hodgdon.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html |
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 01:35:41 PM » |
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If you are only trying to slay paper targets, your laser cast bullets with Unique are great to shoot, I use 13 grains under just about any 300-400 grain bullet and they kill the paper every time!
enjoy the 45-70, much more rewarding and fun to reload for than the 308!
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2009, 05:10:14 PM » |
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HOLY SMOKES PRIVATE SCHULTZ!....THAT IS A HOT LOAD!....I AM ONLY USING 52.5 GRAINS OF IMR3031 UNDER THE 300-GRAIN HOLLOWPOINTS AND I FEEL THAT IS FAIRLY POTENT AT 100 YARDS........
Yeah, they hurt like hell when sighting in the rifle, but the deer was the only one to notice when I pulled the trigger the last time. The fireball was pretty impressive though in the dim hours of sunset. |
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2009, 05:27:16 PM » |
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I can go mild to wild with Varget. As Swampman stated above, a nice comfortable load is 40gr. under a 405. I won't publish my "hot" load but it will reset a shoulder nicely. I let my brother's shoot that.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2009, 05:48:42 PM » |
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I load with AA2015. It works well in mild to hot loads.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2009, 06:28:54 PM » |
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I have good luck with 4064 under the 300gr Sierra HP's around 1900fps. They seem to shoot well out to 200 yds, 300 requires a little holdover, pretty mild recoil.
I just loaded some H4198 under the 300s this morning. They should go about 2300 fps & have a little more kick.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2009, 09:17:14 PM » |
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Varget for 400 gr range loads is good. H322 for 500-550 gr loads.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2009, 11:47:03 PM » |
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I’ve used IMR3031 for 405gr jacketed bullets and Accurate 5744 with 400gr cast bullets for years, using loads recommended by Mike Venturino. If I ever start casting my own 45/70 bullets I’d start experimenting with Unique and 2400, using data from a 50s era Lyman Cast Bullet Reloading Manual as a guide.
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2009, 08:33:51 AM » |
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I had a lot of H4831 to get rid of - found a load of 53gr under a 405 in the laser cast manual. Works great 1350fps. Trapdoor level load. Works with a 405 Remington bullet too. Accuracy was almost as good as my best loads. I've seen loads for 45-70 for just about every powder made.
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2009, 12:37:07 PM » |
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My Handi 45-70 loves Re-7, H4198, but I have burned more H-322 in it than the others over the years. Very accruate in stout loads.
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