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Public Land In Iowa
« on: January 23, 2009, 06:04:19 am »
Do you think Iowa needs more public hunting land?

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Public Land In Iowa
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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 09:21:15 pm »
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've got places to hunt. But there is alot of places we used to be able to hunt that we can't anymore because somebody leased it!! I will be hunting mostly on my family's land this next fall!!! There is still lots of places to hunt around here. The farmers are down to earth and are really tired of all the crop damage caused from all the deer!!! If you can tell the difference betweet a cow and a deer they will usually let you hunt!! That may sound dumb but i was asked that once!!!!

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2009, 02:45:10 am »
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The farmers are down to earth and are really tired of all the crop damage caused from all the deer!!! If you can tell the difference be between a cow and a deer they will usually let you hunt!!

Where abouts and what county would this be with hunter friendly farmers? I mainly what the meat not a trophy hunter up to this date.

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 10:14:56 pm »
I live in Blockton in taylor county, Right by the ringold county bourder. If you are interested in some public land check ringold county's land!! I've hunted Boone Woods near Redding with great success. That public area in huge with lots of deer and turkeys. But, yes most of the farmers I know are real good about letting people hunt around here.

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 06:29:39 am »
Yes we do need more! I live in marion County, giving me LOTS of public land to hunt, but getting permision to hunt private land is like finding hens teeth, even with all the crop damage we have due to deer. Unfortunately not everyone has as much public land close by as I do. :-[

Read an artical in an old Iowa Game magazine that discussed the problems of regulating our deer herd/access to private land/ hunting leases. Things do not sound good on that score. Plus an artical in yesterdays Des Moines Register about the loss of revenue to the state from lower numbers of hunters makes thing sound pretty bad too.

Having grown up here in Iowa, I can recall the days when getting permission to hunt was not an issue.... you asked, you got permission. Things have changed!!!!!!!!!!!

(but then I can remember taking my shotgun to school on the school bus and having the driver drop me off a couple of miles from home and hunting the fence lines the rest of the way.)
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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 08:16:11 am »
I guess the majority of public land is in the roadside right-of-ways. We have roadside hunting in Iowa which is great for pheasant hunting in parts of Iowa with lots of minimum maintenance roads and good roadside cover. However, about once per year I run into some jerk farmer who wants to deny me my right to hunt the roadside. Sometimes they try to tell me I don't have the right to hunt there. Sometimes they drive past very slowly and try to flush the pheasants I am trying to hunt. I even had one come out and go into a fit and he was armed with a shotgun. I bet some of these guys go down to the local cafe and have coffee with their neighbors and complain about hunters.

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 02:00:39 pm »
Can you explain this "road side hunting" to a fellow from the deep south where shooting within 50 yards of a highway is against the law?

How does it work and how close to the road can you shoot and how far off it can you travel legally? I assume that there like here there is a strip on each side of the road that is owned by the county or state as right of way on which the adjacent land owner has no control but here if you were caught firing a gun in that right of way you'd be ticketed at the least and likely tossed in jail for the night.


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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 03:25:41 pm »
I really don't know all of the details, but I do know that in Iowa when one owns property adjacent to a public road, then one actually "owns" every thing to the center line of that road...in a manner of speaking. One has no rights over that part of thier property that is in use by the state, but one may have access to and reap the benefits of whatever grows in the "ditches". In Iowa there is (or used to be) a law prohibitinig the discharge of a rifle or slug loaded shot gun over the right or way, but I don't recall anything about "shot". There is/was also a law on the books allowing people to scavange the ditches after the owners had "first fruits" from them. Of course it's been a lot of years since I used to hunt the fencelines/ditches when I was a kid so things may well have changed.

I know I still see people "hunting the ditches" once in a while on the back roads.
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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 11:52:29 am »
On county gravel and dirt roads one can hunt the area between the edge of the traveled part of the road and the fenceline without the adjacent farmer permission. One cannot shoot over the traveled part of the road. One can shoot at pheasants which have flushed and are flying in the airspace over the farmers field. One can also tresspass to retreive dead or wounded animals, but cannot take a gun with to do this without the farmers permission. One can only use shotguns for roadside hunting. Rifles and pistols are not allowed. However, shotguns with slugs are allowed for deer off the sides of the road, but within the right-of-way. Note that many times one can see a heard of deer heading accross a field toward a road and maybe get a shot off as they are crossing the road ditch. They often stop after jumping the fence. Until a couple years ago, there was not actually a law against one shooting a deer on a farmers land from the roadside. I asked game wardens about that in the past, but they would not answer my question. I suspect they gave out a few tickets for hunters breaking a law that did not exist. I think the law got made after rifle deer hunting got legalized. That is, now one cannot shoot deer on the other side of a property line without the owner's permission. Most farmers have a fence between their fields and the roads. That is because they often put cattle out on the fields after the corn is picked to clean up the leftovers. Note that the farmer may technically own the land to the middle of the road, and they may pay taxes on that land. However, that land is under a perminent government easement and in effect, no more there land than the public. I think it is fair that they pay taxes to the middle of the road because their land is more valuable with a road adjacent to it. Without a public maintained road nearby it would be more difficut to do their farming operations. They would need to maintain their own field road. The vast majority of farmers are OK with the roadside hunting law. I think it really works well for hunters as during pheasant season gunshots are often heard and the farmers seem not to think a cow will get shot everytime a gun goes off. I think that makes it easier to get permission for hunting on private land. There are a few farmers who just plain seem to hate hunters, like the ones that harrass me about once per year. A few years ago my son and I flushed and shot a couple pheasants along the roadside. Two grandsons were with, both about 8 years old. One pheasant crashed in a field of tall grass. My son and I put our guns in the truck and my grandsons laid their toy guns on the short grass along side the road. We all then went into the tall grass field to try to find the pheasant. The farmer drove over my grandson's toy guns and started yelling at us. My son and I explained the tresspass law to him, but I am sure he already knew it. We even showed him the regulations which we had with us. It did not calm him down but he finally left. I contacted a game warden about that with the farmers liscence plate number and asked him to talk with the farmer. However, I doubt if the game warden did. I think it is more important careerwise for them to side with farmers rather than hunters.

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 01:41:33 pm »
You cannot shoot any rifle on or over any of
the public highways or waters of the state or any
railroad right-of-way. You cannot discharge a shotgun
shooting a slug, pistol or revolver on or over a
public roadway.

You can only shoot a shotgun, using shot in the road ditch. If you are using slugs, you have to be inside the farmers fence!!!

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 03:04:38 pm »
pozoutdoors - I looked at my 08/09 Iowa hunting regs. My understanding is that one can shoot slugs in the roadside ditch at a deer also in the roadside ditch (same side of the roadway). One cannot shoot over the roadway (the traveled part of the road right-of-way). However, north of Highway 30 the law appears different, like maybe slugs cannot be shot while in the ditch. I hunt southern Iowa and I frequently see hunters waiting for driven deer in the roadside ditches. I assume that since a big deer drive is taking place and there are walkers in the fields that they are a part of that hunt and have permission from the farmer to also shoot on his land. This may sound funny to someone from Pennsylvania or Mississippi. However, but Iowa tends to be mostly open fields and sometimes the only cover or break from the cold December wind is in the roadside ditch. - DON

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 03:21:21 pm »
Here is some typical Iowa land.



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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2009, 11:26:46 pm »
OK! I just went to the Iowa DNR's web site and if you go to this part and to page 14 it will give you the info
http://www.iowadnr.gov/law/files/08huntingregs.pdf

About the shooting of game birds that fly over the fence. I have talked to several DNR Officers and some will tell you if it is over the fence (private land side) you can not shoot it, it is the same way with deer, unless of you have permission to hunt that parcial of land.
Hope this helps.

OH! (about the over the fence not over thing) it is one of those things that falls in the area (Discretion of the officer, meaning his/her interpretation of the law!!!!!!
You can take it to court and win or lose, its just the hassle to have to deal with it and the judge you might get.

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Re: Public Land In Iowa
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 10:23:46 am »
Long ago I asked a DNR officer about shooting pheasants in the airspace over a farmer's property and he did not think it was an issue. I think probably at least 90 percent of the pheasants shot are there. I think shooting over the traveled part of the roadway is illegal for safety reasons. Generally the way to get roadside pheasants is for at least two hunters to pinch them. Anyway, it's not really safe to shoot at them when they are lined up with your hunting buddy, so one must wait until they get over the farmer's airspace in order to be safe. I suppose there are some farmers who would object, but there are probably some farmers who would object to planes flying over their property.

 

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