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Offline KW

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Swedish Mauser disc
« on: December 03, 2007, 10:06:57 pm »
Hello. I have a buddy that is willing to sell me his 1910 Gustaf made Swedish Mauser. Now this brass disc on the side of the stock has got me confused. I have done a lot of searching and I think I got it right, but could use a little back up. This is what it says...

Big Wedge, Top Line: 6.51 no triangle mark above any numbers
                 Bottom Line: 6.46 with triangle mark on the 0

Small Wedge: 1,2,3 with 1 in the smallest part

Mid Wedge: Torped Overslag  0 Str

At the end of the barrel on the underside reads: CDI SWAN VT M96 SWEDEN 6.5X55 CAL

I have gone to several popular sites about this and I just can't figure this thing out. I think this is a good barrel. Am I right? Any help is welcomed. Thanks.

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Swedish Mauser disc
« on: December 03, 2007, 10:06:57 pm »
 

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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 02:50:56 am »
Sorry to puncture your bubble but the discs information is how old?

Sure it was right when marked by the Swedish armourer but how long ago was that and how has it been treated since then?

how many rounds have been fired since then?

The disc is part of the rifles history but in all honesty cannot be relied on to be accurate in it's information now unless you can prove it's not been out of the amoury since that last inspection.

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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 04:05:20 am »
The disc tells you what quality barrel you have.  The disc provides the measurements of the barrel - lands and grooves and yours is pretty tight (a number 1 barrel) and that is exactly what the small wedge says.  I believe the 'torped Overslag 0' means it is'nt worn. 

The lettering on the underside of the barrel identifies the rifle as being brought into this country as surplus by Century Arms or Century Distributors International of St. Albans, Vermont and that was roll stamped on the barrel.  This last act (roll-stamping) may have 'ouched' the bore somewhat but the rifle should be a excellent shooter.  These rifles have to be shot literally thousands of times to get to a number 2 or 3.

My M38 wears a number 3 barrel (1 is good, 3 is less good) and one of my favorite pastimes is seeing how many one hole 3 shot groups I can print at 150 yds during any given shooting session.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2007, 12:38:34 pm »
I pulled this off a Swede site and the author seems to know what he is talking about.  I'm a shooter, like Mikey and don't put much stock in what the disc says, only where the bullet goes.
James


Stock Discs for 1894 & 1896 Swedish Mausers

 The most common of the bore discs. The range of numbers from 6.46 to 6.59mm refers to the diameter of the bore. The increments are very nearly spaced .0004" apart, or 4 ten-thousandths of an inch.

This disc is marked at 6.52mm. The pie-shape with 1-2-3 refers to the amount of -rust- observed in the bore, though I've never seen -rust- in the bore of a Swedish Mauser. This disc is marked a #1, which is better than #2. The Swedes had certain standards for acceptable wear in their rifles, but it's almost unheard of to see a Swede barrel that's worn out.

The lower section is mostly unused. "Torped" refers to the boat-tail 139gr m/41 bullet. "Overslag" refers to over shooting, and the "str" is abbreviated for streck. There are 6300 streck in a circle. One streck equals .1m at 100 meters. This is really an indication of how high a bullet will strike the target in relation to point-of-aim.


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 I believe this to be an older style of bore disc than the one above. The bore dimentions are more limited, in this case from 6.49 to 6.55mm. This disc is also marked as a #1 condition. The "Torped Overslag" on this disc is marked -1-, indicating the bullet will strike .1m above point-of-aim at 100 meters. This particular disc is from a Husqvarna 96/38.

Some discs are seen without the 1-2-3 marked. These would be considered -like new- barrels and refered to as "zero" bore, or #0.







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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 03:48:07 am »
Very good gentlemen  :D however it STILL only applies when it was inspected!

How many of your rifles have never been shot or cleaned after inspections?

How long ago was the inspection carried out?

And can you guarantee that your rifle had not been used before you acquired it and after the inspection?

Finally can you be positive that the disc is the right one for YOUR rifle?

   After all the discs are not numbered to the rifle are they?

There are places where you can buy discs you know!

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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 05:46:29 am »
It's a good thing I have never been 'torped' over my comments, but I sure have 'Overslagged' before.  Dang, but Swedish is almost as tough to learn as Kling-on...............Mikey.

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Re: Swedish Mauser disc
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 05:51:53 pm »
Doesn't the "1" or "2" or "3" mean the amount of rust in the bores?  Either way i never see any rust in the bores anyway.  I kind of go by the marks under the stock were the pistol grip is just behind the trigger guard.  It means how many times its been pull out of service and been repaired.  I feel your getting a better quality rifle if its been repaired.

My 1907 carl gustaf M96 disc marked "2" using new 139gr sellier/bellot ammo benchrested will shoot 1 1/2" groups.  You can't always go by the disc because these were dismantled and some were put back together mismatched.  First i would look to see if the stock numbers match the receiver number.  If they do they what the disc says maybe ok buyt you can't be certain.  If she shoots good the way most swede mausers do you did ok....

I think i have a swede mauser marked "3" and the bore still looks great.

Here's a site with all the swede info;  www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/   Lots of info and reading enjoy.. don't forget to book mark it.....

 

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