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Offline Selmer

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Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« on: February 19, 2007, 07:32:19 pm »
I was dis-assembling my Encore barrel in preparation for installing a stronger locking bolt spring, and while tapping (not pounding!) on the 3/32" tension/roll pin holding the locking bolt assembly in the barrel lug, the locking lug broke!  One piece came out, it looks like it might have broken on a casting fault.  Anyone else experienced this?  I assume I can contact TC and they'll send me a new one, hopefully w/o sending the barrel, cheaper for me AND them.
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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 04:37:32 am »
Never heard of that happening to an Encore... or Contender.  There must have been a fault like you said...the lug should be much stronger than either the retainer pin or the size of punch it takes to knock it out.  You are very lucky it happened then instead of breaking upon firing...that could get nasty.  I don't want a face full of what goes on inside a chamber upon ignition.  I'm betting TC will be most willing to help you. :o GOOD SHOOTIN', Walt :o

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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 08:59:33 am »
Did the barrel lug or the locking lug break?  I just got done doing three barrels yesterday installing the heavy duty locking spring in the barrel lug.  The first barrel I ever did I noticed the locking lugs are two piece units.  They sit together side by side.  When installed they fit tight.  Once the roll pin comes out enough, one side of the locking lug will come out.  The first time I did this I did not compress the locking lugs and when the roll pin cleared the first half it shot out the end of the barrel lug.  I have a feeling yours is not broke.  If one of the two locking lug pieces broke lenghtwise then I would say you have a problem.  Just compress the locking lugs back into the barrel lug with one of those spring clamps, then drive the roll pin out.  When you release the clamp then both pieces of the locking lug will come out.  You will see the cut-away in both pieces of the locking lug where the roll pin goes and holds it in place.  You will need to compress these back in or you will never get the roll pin installed.  These are not cast parts - they are machined steel.  Hopes this helps.

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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2007, 10:04:43 am »

Yes, I had a brand new factory 243 15" barrel that broke after mounting and lockup (never fired).  I called T/C and got a new set sent to me free (wanted to replace both of them to be sure).  I also had a locking bolt come from the factory with a chunk broken off on the lip, and had them send me new ones.  My guess is that you had one that was defective. 

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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2007, 11:30:55 am »
Trust me, it's broken.  I drove the pin all the way out last night, three pieces for a two piece bolt, not good.  I called TC and it's on the way there, they wouldn't send me the bolts, they want the barrel. Oh well, live and learn.
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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2007, 12:05:47 pm »
I not at all surprized that TC wanted the bolt(just in order to get a good look at it), but in past years I don't think they would have asked for the whole barrel.  That may be just a function of the new ownership.  But I am sure they realize just how serious a problem that a defective locking bolt could be.  I don't recall ever removing the locking bolt( or lug ) from any of my Encore barrels...I've never experienced a lock up issue with any Encore barrels to date.  On the other hand, I've removed the bolt from many Contender barrels.  I use a standard punch just a hair smaller than the role pin retainer...simply drive the pin out leaving it just barely still stuck in the end while the punch replaces the pin still retaining the bolt.  Then push against the edge of my work bench with the end of the bolt enough to slightly compress the spring...remove the punch and carefully back off the pressure against the bench and voila.  Some of the earliest barrels had threaded machine screws for retainers.  Be interesting to see what TC tells you...let us know.  Just FWIW I've always called the block welded to the bottom of the barrel the "lug" and the moving part(be it the old one piece ones or the newer two piece ones) that locks the action shut as the "bolt".  Don't know that that is politically correct but it's what I call'm anyway. GOOD SHOOTIN', Walt  :)

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Re: Ever busted a locking bolt on an Encore?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 02:16:23 pm »

Must be a new policy since they just sent me a new set in both cases, and didn't want the defective ones.  Replacing was also very easy.