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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-06-2017, 03:08 PM Thread Starter
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Friend is = female - 5'4"- slight build
has a ML2 that is hard for her to load. I'd say it's 50#+ with smooth black and 452 bullets and shooting 5744. Gun shoots good and is accurate but really does not need all that loading pressure. I have 2 Savage 50 cal ML2 and a upgraded boltnose & plug 50 Rem700ML and they shoot great and she can load them easily.


I'm thinking that a bore polish job, cleaner powder like VV N110 or H4198 and going to BCR or the RCR sabots and .451 bullets would help.


Other than rebarrel or getting a sizing die and sizing all her bullets what else other than what I plan to do might help?


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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old 04-07-2017, 01:41 AM
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Try a different bullet, sabot combo.

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Try Harvester crush rib sabots or as said try another bullet

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One of the shooting instructors at our local range had a savage inline and it was hard to load. He swears the bullet/sabot was fully seated against the smokeless powder but that Savage blew up, sent shrapnel right through the plywood bench. Guy at the other end of the shooting lane was hit in the arm and several split barrel pieces ended up in the parking lot. Scope glass disintegrated to the size of grains of sand.
The shooter ended up with an injured hand. Barrel pieces were gathered and sent to Savage to be analysed.
Word has it that a foreign manufacturer produced the barrels.
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wolfspotter - I don't doubt what you heard, but do you know anyone that actually witnessed the incident? There's a lot of rumors (I heard, that Bill, said that he heard Joe tell him that... sort of thing), floating around. My question would be, why would Savage have a foreign manufactuer produce barrels for them, when they make their own barrels?

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I have had a Savage ml2 for years. It is hard to load with .452 bullets and MMP sabots. I have tried other bullet and sabot combinations and have had misfires, since they did not compress the powder charge of 5744 as tightly. It may be the nature of this beast.

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Eliminate all doubt use a witness mark on the ram rod That has saved me a couple times especially getting to talk to some one and forgot did I or didn't I load it. What I do I use a piece of black electric tape that way if you change loads remove it and replace it in another spot on your ram rod Back to hard loading Lee sells sizing dies she may want to size the bullets down to where they will seat easier I have seen bullet sabots that seat easier and still have very good accuracy Good luck

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wolfspotter - I don't doubt what you heard, but do you know anyone that actually witnessed the incident? There's a lot of rumors (I heard, that Bill, said that he heard Joe tell him that... sort of thing), floating around. My question would be, why would Savage have a foreign manufactuer produce barrels for them, when they make their own barrels?
I was shown the results the following day. There were witnesses and talked to the shooter myself since hes been a long time friend and grew up a block away from me. He contacted Savage himself and they told him, when demand was high, they did outsource.
He also does an outstanding job teaching Hunter Safety Coarse. Probably never no the real reason. Always wear eye protection.
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Has anybody tried a little olive oil on the sabots? Traditional muzzle loader trick, but it makes life easier....
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Mine's hard to load as well. I've even been approached by a RO who questioned whether I was loading the correct caliber (and why I was stoking it with smokeless). I shoot .452's with MMP black sabots over 5744 and lube with bore butter, but it doesn't help much. I believe I read something somewhere that recommended not shooting .451 bullets, possibly in the gun's manual. I'd recommend an aluminum T handle ramrod; it makes loading easier.
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