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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
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Default Traditions Nitrofire, things have gotten ridiculous

So now there is a breechloading/muzzleoading rifle by Traditions, that uses a pre-measured charge cartridge. Pretty soon they will invent a completely self-contained cartridge firearm. Oh wait, that would be a rifled shotgun. So, this new wonder rifle limits you to using a charge of either 100 or 120 grains. What if your best accuracy is really at a charge of 85 or 112 grains ? You'll never know.

I am just saying muzzleloaders have evolved into something completely unnnecessary. There was really not much wrong with loose powder, and percussion caps,. We really don't need pellets, primer carriers, pre-measured powder cartridges. It seems like Traditions, CVA and T/C come out with new models every year. However, the old 1971 H & R Huntsman, or Marlin MLS-50, using loose powder and #11 caps still get the job done. We do not need change just for the sake of change. How many shots at deer where lost because someone forgot to unscrew the safety on the Knight rifles. Complexity does not always get you benefit.
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Sounds a little hypocritical coming from someone shooting a pair of inline guns. Maybe you should get yourself a club and a handful of rocks.
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I'll stick to real black powder and my flint locks, Thank-you.
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Sounds a little hypocritical coming from someone shooting a pair of inline guns. Maybe you should get yourself a club and a handful of rocks.
Inline muzzleloaders have been around since 1808, so...

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I don't think that new gun will be allowed in some states for hunting purposes. My state regulations require that the gun must be loaded from the muzzle to qualify for hunting.
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I don't think that new gun will be allowed in some states for hunting purposes. My state regulations require that the gun must be loaded from the muzzle to qualify for hunting.

Same in Indiana - loaded ONLY from the muzzle. And I hope they don't go changing the language to allow a breechloader (even if only half the load) to be used in muzzleloader season.

I wouldn't buy it just because of the expense as well as the inability to customize your powder charge. They are planning to be stuck with only two choices right now.

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Sounds a little hypocritical coming from someone shooting a pair of inline guns. Maybe you should get yourself a club and a handful of rocks.
You are making an assumption that I own and shoot the guns I mentioned. I own a couple of traditional muzzleloaders, flint and cap. The point of my post was to solicit the opinion of others on the Traditions Nitrofire rifle and it's loading system.
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You are making an assumption that I own and shoot the guns I mentioned. I own a couple of traditional muzzleloaders, flint and cap. The point of my post was to solicit the opinion of others on the Traditions Nitrofire rifle and it's loading system.
Point taken. My apologies for getting your shorts in a wad.
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The gun company's just keep pushing so they can sell more guns but quite a few states say it must load from the front and some do not allow scopes. It is the same way with bow season we really don't need cross bows with scopes and all the other things they have to go with them.

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