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post #11 of 62 (permalink) Old 10-21-2017, 09:27 AM
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I paid 400$ for just a barrel and was tickled pink to get it at that price.

I'd pay 500$ for the whole gun in good condition.

6 or 6.5 grains of Red Dot below a 230 gr cast bullet = meat in the pot.

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What kind of velocity can I expect from everyday factory loads, not the cowboy loads? Will the frame will handle +P loads?
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My first one was reamed to 454 Casull and pushed 250gr FTXs to 2200fps. The SB2 frame is strong enough for 460 S&W loads.

2400, H110, W296, and AA1680 will propel 45 Colt loads into and perhaps beyond 44 Mag velocities. Just be sure that the bullets will perform as needed in the velocity range you load them to. Pistol bullets are just that, pistol bullets.

Factory loads vary greatly. So many different manufacturers...

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post #14 of 62 (permalink) Old 10-22-2017, 01:29 AM
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It can be loaded a bit hotter than a .44 mag with the right loads
No it can not...I see this all the time and it simply is not correct. Now having said that, the 45 Colt when loaded with the upper end of Ruger/TC loads will equal and sometimes exceed the killing power of the 44 magnum. It will do this simply because of heavier bullets and a larger diameter and do it with less pressure but, it will not be a hotter load than the 44 magnum.
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Good deal! Snatch that baby up!

Colt 1860 - it just feels right.
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I have 2 unfired 45 Colt Buffalo Carbines I'll list on classified if anyone is interested.
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Gohon nailed it.

They are essentially once you get into the higher end ruger only loads neck and neck.

.44Mag has advantage of higher saami pressures.
.45 colt is .452 instead of .430 so it gains a little there.

.44 mag has the advantage in that the round was created in the modern era, with modern steels and pistols made to contain the pressures.

There are a lot of old colt and other pistols out there from the days of black powder that would blow up with a high pressure load.
So they had to be careful about loads.

That being said, they both have the case capacity with hot powders to get significant speed on a 230 gr or larger cast boolit.
Either at reasonable range with reasonable speed will hit game like a ton of bricks.

So if you want to talk "faster" you need to get into specifics. Or IMO your blowing hot air. Just my opinion.

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* Sighting options *

My old eyes aren’t going to work with these irons. Looking through the FAQS the XS Ghost sight looks interesting. Maybe a Leupold VX1 or VX2 in 1-4x20. Opinions please, need it functional but also want to keep “the look”.
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GREAT caliber, good price that I would pay if I wanted a third one. :

I have hunted deer with one exclusively before I cought the 357 Maxi bug. I cannot actually tell you how many deer fell to my marlins shooting 21g of 296 W/300g Speer bullet... But It will shoot end to end of a northern whitetail. Its killed deer hogs and one bear for me. Most shots DRT.
One of my handis is re chambered to 454 and shoots real nice. I dont push it as hard as Dinny appears to.

I have never been a 43 mag fan, there is nothing it can do I cannot do better with my 45 Colt. Accept claim to be something its not. :

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Have you considered a Skinner peep sight? Another option might be a Williams peep from a 45-70 BC with the small diameter peep unscrewed to reveal a large diameter loop to peep through.

Man, ya gotta be careful when typing "peep" that many times!

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