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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-27-2017, 11:24 AM Thread Starter
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Big day today. Someone posted on Arms List a NIB H&R Handi Rifle in 243 with a bull barrel and scope for $175. This morning I met him at a gas station and gave him $150 for the rifle without the scope. It looks perfect, and so I just now joined this forum.

Later today I'm ordering a DNZ mount and a Leupold but can't decide which one yet. I grew up using H&R shotguns and was waiting for a single shot Henry, but this deal was now and there's nothing like now.

I would appreciate any words of wisdom from other H&R rifle owners. My .243 is going to be used solely for filling my freezer with venison.
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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-27-2017, 11:32 AM
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Iíve owned various Handiís but never the .243. To be honest there are a few people on here on donít care for the .243 Handi, but I take youth on hunts twice a year and have seen kids with very limited to zero experience take deer and feral hogs with the Handi 243. Youíre doing the right thing with the mount. Good job on $150 buy. Love arms list for face to face buying myself


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I believe the biggest issue with the H&R .243s has been using bullets too 'heavy/long' for the twist which wont stabilize well thus are not as accurate as the lighter/shorter bullets. This was not just an H&R issue but plagued the .243 in other brands as well. So, dont buy the heaviest bullet loads to give it a go.
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I cannot agree with gcrank. I never had trouble, nor any of my other friends with 243 Win Handi-Rifles, with the 100 gr. hunting loads.

I set up one for my ex-wife's kids and they still use it today. They say it's the most accurate rifle they have shot.

A friend of mine had a sister that was looking for something to hunt with and later let her kids use. My friend told her about my experience and his experience and she bought one for herself in 243. Never the first complaint.

Another boy that used to hunt my property before going off to college, used a 243 religiously, always connecting.

Now, to be fair, these were older rifles, before H&R was sold to Remington.

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I didnt mean to imply that all the H&R .243s had issues, sorry. I really should have said 'some' dont like the heavy/longer bullets and most (iirc) settled down when the owners went to lighter/shorter ones.
Were I to buy one I would start with the lighter bullets, if they wont shoot I would KNOW I had issues! I dont know if we have any info here regarding the barrel twists of this caliber through the years in the H&Rs. That would be good for the FAQs if we dont.
There are a good number of comments, if not threads, here about this; see if you can find them.
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Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth Gcrank, thanks for your candor. I just believe most folks confuse production problem with a single gun as problems with all guns of a certain criteria. I believe the 243 Handi has had more than its share of "bad press".

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Congrats!! I've had four 243 H&Rs, 100gr flat base bullets worked well in three of them, two of them being a 20" Superlights, not so much in the second Ultra 24" bull barrel which likes 87gr and lighter boattails. As has been said, short for their weight heavy or lighter (85-90gr and lighter) bullets will work best the most often, at least a couple members have confirmed their H&R/NEF 243 barrels to have 1:11" twist bores instead of the 243 standard 1:10", just enough slower to cause stability issues with heavier boattail bullets.

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I have 2. Older ejector ones. Look at the FAQs about O ring, if needed, keep the screw torqued the same. Since it is your scope mounting, that is one less thing to wonder about being done right. Is it a bull? The regular barrel is heavy countour, the bull is something like 1 inch at the muzzle, and if I remember, 24 inches. Doesn't matter, they are all good.

I have enjoyed mine, used for antelope around here.

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My .243 Handi put 18 consecutive 85 Gr. Sierra Gamekings in 2.5 inches at 300 yards. It is probably my most accurate Handi.

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80 grain GMX work well, but not cheap.

Hundreds...not so much.

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