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The .357 Max enjoyed a boost for last few years with single shot hand loaders because of straightwall cartridge changes to deer seasons in some states.
Those who have them will certainly continue enjoying them...however Iím pretty sure the 350Lís ammo availability/ price and plethora of inexpensive rifles will inevitably convince future buyers to choose it over the Max. Most likely Max brass production will be dropped due to stagnant sales.
I will be ordering a bunch more in the next year or so before the supply dries up..




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I'm thinking that this needs doing. May call a few reamer manufacturers tomorrow and see if they would do a .358 Legend reamer for me.


I would think .358 bullets to be too tough for Legend velocities..
I thought 350L and 357 Mag have same bore groove diameters...just the chamber/throat is different(smaller)?




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I would think .358 bullets to be too tough for Legend velocities..
I thought 350L and 357 Mag have same bore groove diameters...just the chamber/throat is different(smaller)?




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The .357 Mag SAAMI bullet and throat diameter is .358 inch for jacketed bullets and .359 for cast.

The .350 Legend bullet and throat diameter is .357 inch.

Both have a .355 groove and .346 bore diameter according to SAAMI.

Increasing the throat diameter of the .350 Legend to .358 or .359 inch would allow us to use the same bullets we load the .357 Max with.

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I think PT&G has already made that reamer.

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The .357 Max enjoyed a boost for last few years with single shot hand loaders because of straightwall cartridge changes to deer seasons in some states.
Those who have them will certainly continue enjoying them...however Iím pretty sure the 350Lís ammo availability/ price and plethora of inexpensive rifles will inevitably convince future buyers to choose it over the Max. Most likely Max brass production will be dropped due to stagnant sales.
I will be ordering a bunch more in the next year or so before the supply dries up..




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I was thinking that cwlongshot bought some factory ammo and it was not good. Very very inconsistent in powder charge and maybe case length. If that is their best option maybe that's not a great option

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I believe this was the cheap Winchester 145 gr fmj ammo. That was the first ammo rolled out for the .350 Legend.

The expanding tip and soft point hunting ammo from Winchester and Hornady is much better quality from what I hear.

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I believe this was the cheap Winchester 145 gr fmj ammo. That was the first ammo rolled out for the .350 Legend.



The expanding tip and soft point hunting ammo from Winchester and Hornady is much better quality from what I hear.
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Why??

The Legend runs at higher pressures than the Maxi. All at nearly identical velocities. We have been shooting 358 Bullets thru Our maxis for decades.

It has the same limitations in powder cap as the Maxi.


Yes Stewie, Those 145g FMJ are down right dangerious. I would t shoot them on a bet. My very first boxes left me with excessively flat primers blown primers and a case head separation. I suspected the Rifle first but quickly learned it wasFor the 350 Legend fans-1289a587-d419-4a1b-8057-d021b25e811f_1577723590204.jpeg the ammunition.



I would think .358 bullets to be too tough for Legend velocities..
I thought 350L and 357 Mag have same bore groove diameters...just the chamber/throat is different(smaller)?

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I spoke to JES after he rebored and rechambered a 223 Handi to 350 L. He used the same cutters to cut the bore as he does any 357 Magnum. He used a SAAMI spec 350L reamer that cut a .356 or .357 throat. I can't remember which it was. That's why he only recommended firing factory ammo in it.

As to the toughness of .358" bullets, remember the 180gr Hornady SSPB is .358 so I would say that some of them may be too tough but not all of them are. Even the .358 200gr Rem RN expanded very well for me when fired around 1800fps in my 357 Max.

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My understanding on throat diameter is that it should be .001" over bullet diameter. So a .357 bullet would need a .358 throat. That is why SAAMI specifications require a .358" throat for jacketed .357 mag bullets. They also show .359" throat for .358" cast bullets.


Anyone else have a different opinion?

Talked to PTG today. Working on the. 350 (.358 throat) Legend Match Reamer details. Waiting on their expert opinion. Will let you know if it happens.

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