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Haven't shot anything with them yet, just going off of the performance guys hunting with the 357 Mini-Mole (360 Dan Wesson length) at 1850fps muzzle velocity were getting out to 100yds. At max COL (the 200ftx is a long bullet) you can add another 150-200fps with the 357AR and the same barrel length. I suspect with the 22" barrel neckisred will get close to 2250-2300fps with the 200gr ftx which should put him at over 1740fps at 200 yds and over 1300 ftlbs (100+fps faster than the mini-mole at 100yds). Here's what the 200ftx did out of the mini-mole at 70-100yds with a 1850fps at the muzzle load. Just thought it looked like it might be a good performer.
Can't argue with that performance or those numbers
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How do you know it is more accurate than you? How much smaller are the groups shot by others than your groups?
I don't consider myself much of a rifle shooter I guess. As far as the groups others are getting, I'd suggest you read the original post and the rest of the thread.
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I've read it all. Unless you have someone else shoot it, you can not be sure that it is capable of better accuracy than the smallest group you have fired so far. That is my only point.

I see many instances claiming a gun is more accurate than the shooter, but few offer any proof.

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I've read it all. Unless you have someone else shoot it, you can not be sure that it is capable of better accuracy than the smallest group you have fired so far. That is my only point.



I see many instances claiming a gun is more accurate than the shooter, but few offer any proof.
Brother, can you be any more or a hater on this post? Are you contributing any thing of worthiness of the OP or development of his rifle?

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I see many instances claiming a gun is more accurate than the shooter, but few offer any proof.
And this has what to do with the price of tea in China? The man has built an accurate load for an accurate rifle. Love it or leave it be and quit trolling.

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Thanks guys. My apologies for feeding him. I only posted this project hoping to offer an idea to those who like to tinker. Having so many willing to help and everything but the barrel on hand, it was a simple project. I think this could be an absolute monster with some Fury bullets and someone with more knowledge than myself.
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Thanks guys. My apologies for feeding him. I only posted this project hoping to offer an idea to those who like to tinker. Having so many willing to help and everything but the barrel on hand, it was a simple project. I think this could be an absolute monster with some Fury bullets and someone with more knowledge than myself.
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I've read it all. Unless you have someone else shoot it, you can not be sure that it is capable of better accuracy than the smallest group you have fired so far. That is my only point.



I see many instances claiming a gun is more accurate than the shooter, but few offer any proof.
I believe what Neckisred was saying is that this rifle makes it look like he is a good shooter, (which is total B.S. because I have seen his targets!) but it is something humble people say.

To truly see if any firearm is more accurate than any shooter, or a any other firearm, would require a machine rest, like a ransom rest in the case of pistols.

In my opinion, a firearm has to be pretty bad to shoot bad in the hands of someone who is truly a marksman. After a few shots to learn a firearm, a marksman should be able to make a given firearm shoot reasonably where he wants it. Maybe not MOA but hit what he aims at.

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Thank you for it sir!

Enjoyable and informative reading!

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Brian. Have to admit I'm a little surprised you didn't jump on the 357AR bandwagon. You getting a little old on us? I've always enjoyed all your posts and the cool things you've shared since I've been here. Then you went out and bought that boring 350 Legend? Glad to see you participating here again and I know you'll get everything possible out of that Legend.
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I believe what Neckisred was saying is that this rifle makes it look like he is a good shooter, (which is total B.S. because I have seen his targets!) but it is something humble people say.

To truly see if any firearm is more accurate than any shooter, or a any other firearm, would require a machine rest, like a ransom rest in the case of pistols.

In my opinion, a firearm has to be pretty bad to shoot bad in the hands of someone who is truly a marksman. After a few shots to learn a firearm, a marksman should be able to make a given firearm shoot reasonably where he wants it. Maybe not MOA but hit what he aims at.

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Ol BW was another who was kind enough to pick up the phone and give me a call when I was working on the feeding on this project. I knew he had Savage experience and his knowledge got me where I needed to be. He is definitely my enabling brother from another mother, as he helped a ton with my 357AR as well. Another bonus is, he speaks a language I understand.
A quick trip to any public range kinda backs up my theory that most rifles are more accurate than the shooter.
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