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Default Bad rifling in 444 Handi Barrel.

Shame on me, out of town gun show, guy is carrying a new looking 444 Marlin Handi-rifle.
When he says $225 I ask if he will take $200...and now I own it.
I know...always check the rifling with a bore light (DUH). Got back in town, and a couple days later while disassembling and oiling, I check the bore.
I have never seen a worse rifling job in my life, very shallow and uneven. Even the twist rate wasn't uniform. There is a 6" section that is nearly straight, with very little twist.
Came here to check my options, since they aren't being made anymore.
All suggestions welcomed.
Thanks, I don't want to pass it on to anyone else like I bought it.
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Worst case scenario, the frame, stock set and barrel stub are worth close to $200.
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It might be possible to have it rebored to .45-70...


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I'd shoot it and see how it does, I've had some messed up bores that still shot good. You can buy a 45-70 barrel for less than the cost of a rebore and chamber. Unless you want something different like a .50 something, JES will do .50-140.

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Shame on me, out of town gun show, guy is carrying a new looking 444 Marlin Handi-rifle.
When he says $225 I ask if he will take $200...and now I own it.
I know...always check the rifling with a bore light (DUH). Got back in town, and a couple days later while disassembling and oiling, I check the bore.
I have never seen a worse rifling job in my life, very shallow and uneven. Even the twist rate wasn't uniform. There is a 6" section that is nearly straight, with very little twist.
Came here to check my options, since they aren't being made anymore.
All suggestions welcomed.
Thanks, I don't want to pass it on to anyone else like I bought it.
John
Bob Hoyt will reline/rebore your choice and do it reasonable with quick turn around ! Hes done 8 no 9 barrels for me and is a great guy to deal with . He"s in Penn state if interested PM me /Thanks Ed
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I guess I could buy a box of shells and try it. Plenty of scopes to chose from.....I don't have much hope the way the bore looks though.
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Bob Hoyt only deals with vintage calibers, pre 1900 stuff.

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Bob Hoyt only deals with vintage calibers, pre 1900 stuff.

Thanks, Dinny
Then try JES Reboring /541-942-1342 Another greatwork/fast turnaround/reasonable and after listing a bunch of calibers ,says others on request ! Just call him ,leave a message /He returns calls/ Ed
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i had a brand new one some time ago in as bad of a shape.
mine had zig zag or lightning rifling that went in one direction
then another. but that was back when H&R was still in business,
and i sent it in and they installed a new barrel under warranty.
i wouldn't know where to tell you to turn now.
you do have a good unaltered frame to use other barrel on though.
i've used the barrel off my 30/30 on my 444 frame, and it fit
and locked up fine with no alteration.
i'm sure there was a topic about it back then, although i don't
remember when i may have posted it. there's likely more about
it that you can do a search on.
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I'm with Tim. Shoot the darned thing and see what it does. I have a Remington 783 in 243 that came new from Remington with the ugliest bore that I have ever seen on a new production rifle. It shoots 1.25 inch groups with 58 grain Hornady VMaxes. Plenty good for a truck gun.

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