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These look very interesting. Sub-sonic but made to expand for hunting.... https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/r...nment-gr-sub-x
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I think these will sell well. I dream of the day when they'll make subsonic factory ammo for the 348 Win. That thing kicks in a Handi with jacketed loads, but my cast loads are much tamer.

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I reload and shoot 348 Win, 358 Win, 6.5 Grendel, 30-06 Springfield, 300 BLK, 44 Mag, 357 Maximum, 9mm, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 225 Win and 35 Rem
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Geeze, are youze guys getting soft or what? That's okay, Santa is bringing each of you a nice little box of 22 shorts for Christmas!

Oh yeah, while we're on the subject, anyone need any 405s running two grand???

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Geeze, are youze guys getting soft or what? That's okay, Santa is bringing each of you a nice little box of 22 shorts for Christmas!

Oh yeah, while we're on the subject, anyone need any 405s running two grand???

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Haha, I'll take a brick of shorts. I'd love to try ONE of your 405's, that would be plenty!!
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Thirty years ago, when I moved to da U.P., M. J. Pike at Dukes Sport Shop in Newberry had a matched pair of .45-70 revolvers for sale. A couple of years ago at a Newberry gun show, I ran into Kevin Erickson, Luce County Sheriff, and expert pistol shot. I asked Kevin if he knew who bought them. He said a buddy of his bought one. I asked him if he'd shot it. He replied, "Yeah, once!"

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Thirty years ago, when I moved to da U.P., M. J. Pike at Dukes Sport Shop in Newberry had a matched pair of .45-70 revolvers for sale. A couple of years ago at a Newberry gun show, I ran into Kevin Erickson, Luce County Sheriff, and expert pistol shot. I asked Kevin if he knew who bought them. He said a buddy of his bought one. I asked him if he'd shot it. He replied, "Yeah, once!"

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Geeze, are youze guys getting soft or what? That's okay, Santa is bringing each of you a nice little box of 22 shorts for Christmas!
Oh yeah, while we're on the subject, anyone need any 405s running two grand???
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My shoulders have taken alot of abuse over the years and they're starting to ache in complaint. I no longer see the need to push the limits of my partially separated joints. The 348 Win will get my attention but it doesn't hurt me like your 45-70 loads would.

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My shoulders have taken alot of abuse over the years and they're starting to ache in complaint. I no longer see the need to push the limits of my partially separated joints. The 348 Win will get my attention but it doesn't hurt me like your 45-70 loads would.

Thanks, Dinny
My Go2 deer loads for my Handy 4570 was a case full of Trailboss behind a poured 405 gr,flat tip.
The recoil was tame. Not even 3030 factory. I think it was around the 1200 fps range. My plinking round was a 50 cal roundball pushed through my bullet sizer. With the powder to the ball. The round was shaped like a big TicTac.Never even noticed the recoil, and I was in my early 70's then.

If hand loaded the 4570 is an all around Cal.It makes a big hole without the speed needed for hollowpoints.

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When I first met Bikerbeans he invited me to shoot with him at a private club range where he was a member. I told him I had a homemade SXS double rifle in 45-70 and he told me to bring it along.
He had some actual metal stop signs that he set up at the 100 yard range and he had some 45-70 handloads that were loaded with I believe 500 gr. cast Postel bullets loaded with 7 grs. Of 700 X powder.
Those loads were so slow you could watch them arch thru the 100 yards like they were shot from a slingshot.

They didn't penetrate the metal signs but put a huge fist sized dent in them and I sure was impressed !
The 45-70 can be quite the pusssycat.

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I load 15 grains of Unique behind a cast bullet weighing 350 or 405 grains.

Sub-sonic, low recoil and a rainbow trajectory so it is limited to 50 yards or less plinking in a N.E.F. rifle.

It's just a fun gun.

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