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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-21-2020, 07:42 AM Thread Starter
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Im thinking of a very lightweight Handi rifle.
Just how light can one be with a 22 barrel and walnut stock?
Has anyone built a totally impractical Handi rifle to mimic a Merkel or Blaser?
Would love to see some picks of such a build.
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22" standard contour barrels are not lightly built, 20" Superlights have a slim contour as do vintage Topper rifle barrels. Milling or turning a longer standard barrel, or building a stubbed barrel will result in a light weight rifle as several here have done. I have a 405 Win that started life as a 38-55 Target model that I shortened to 24" and milled octagon, and added Topper Deluxe Classic stock and Classic Carbine forend. Also have a 444 Marlin that started life as a 20" 44 Mag with TDC stock and forend.

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A really lightweight Handi would be an excellent project.



After having to carry everything the 3/8th mile back to our shooting range (ground was too soft to drive back) last week I was thinking about a lightweight Handi also and wondering how much weight could be safely removed from the receiver and where.



Without the scope my 300 Blackout with the 16 inch barrel weighs 4 pounds, 15 ounces on my scale which, if my memory is correct, is about the weight of the Merkel and Blaser. Adding 6 inches of barrel length and a walnut stock would probably add a pound.


Is a 4 pound Handi possible? Let the building begin.
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I just picked up a 22" youth 20 ga that is pretty dang light. I shoulda kept that 223 super light barrel I had. I'd bet the whole thing wound weigh about 4 lbs.

357 Mag camo syn stock, 30/30 cinnamon lam checkered straight grip stock, 20 ga USH camo syn stock, 20 ga Topper Jr 490 cut to 21.5" and Rem Chokes, 357 Rem Max nickel Topper 88 .410 stock.
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The lightest Superlight I have is my 9.3x62 which weighs 6lbs-2oz with a synthetic stock and Leupold Ultralight 3-9x scope which weighs 9oz IIRC, plus the steel rings and aluminum base, getting an SB2 rifle anywhere near 4lbs would be pretty much impossible, maybe a kevlar stock would get close if anyone made one. I think the AAC 300BLk with ~16" barrel weighs 5lbs without a scope and its youth stock, an SB2 frame weighs 23oz alone, might be loss to be had there, barrel could be fluted, but with an adult stock, I'm doubting there's a pound to be lost.

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Brain fart moment LOL, my 20 ga is an SB1 and would need a 22 Hornet barrel not 223. Looked up specs and the youth shotguns are 5-6 lbs but it sure feels lighter.

357 Mag camo syn stock, 30/30 cinnamon lam checkered straight grip stock, 20 ga USH camo syn stock, 20 ga Topper Jr 490 cut to 21.5" and Rem Chokes, 357 Rem Max nickel Topper 88 .410 stock.
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SB1 frames weigh just a tad more than SB2, just over 23 oz, SB2 weigh just under 23oz, not sure on vintage Topper frames, never weighed one.

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I think the lightest one I had was a 223 Superlight with factory forend and adult MC buttstock, with scope base and it barely broke the 5lb mark. I guess if someone used a cheap Tasco fixed power shotgun scope like a 2x25 tube, it still would be in 5 lb range.

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If you want a really light weight break open rifle stub a rifle barrel into a Rossi youth 22-410 shotgun barrel. It has a very narrow frame and I think mine ended up around 4 pounds.

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I think I'll mosey on over to the H&R "classifieds" and keep my eye peeled for a 20" Superlight in .223, with extractor, barrel & or complete gun. Does the 20" Superlight barrel in .223 come with extractors? Thanks.
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