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Hello everyone,
I'm new to this forum and would like some advice. I wasn't pleased with the 10 lb trigger pull on my new 223 rem handi rifle. I decided to try to lighten the trigger using the directions from Perklo's website. I think I might have went a little overboard on stoning the engagement surfaces. When I finished the pull was about half what it was and crisp too. My problem is that the hammer stays cocked when you pull it back, but when you pull the trigger to fire the rifle the transfer bar slips down to fast and it only barely hits the firing pin. It was strange because the first two times I dry fired the gun it worked perfectly. Can anyone help me? Thanks
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P.S. Where could I get parts to replace the ones I wrecked? or Would the factory fix it?

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Welcome aboard!! www.brownells.com sells the parts, but H&R will fix it for ya, but they might charge you since you've voided the warranty....It doesn't take much honing to make big changes as Perklo pointed out. There's also a trigger sticky on this forum that has simplified instructions for the same task.

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EDIT: Another thought is the fact that you reduced the trigger pull weight and that will affect your follow thru. The transfer bar requires you to pull the trigger fully to the rear for it to remain in position for the hammer to strike transferring impact to the firing pin. If you release the trigger at the break, the transfer bar will fall creating the problem you're having.

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EDIT: Another thought is the fact that you reduced the trigger pull weight and that will affect your follow thru. The transfer bar requires you to pull the trigger fully to the rear for it to remain in position for the hammer to strike transferring impact to the firing pin. If you release the trigger at the break, the transfer bar will fall creating the problem you're having.

tim i'm not trying to disagree but i belive this is just a myth. ask anybody at the P-dog shoot and they will tell you how nice the trigger is on my 204 and i am a big believer in fallow thru. when i fire that gun i'll just touch the trigger but i wont let go like you would a bolt gun , after the report i'll look thru the scope at the target then let go of the trigger and hear the click of the transfer bar falling and i've shot some pretty nice groups with the 204.

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Sounds to me like you confirmed what's been true all along. :wink: Try releasing the trigger at the break and see what happens....it's hard to do once ya get in the habit though.... :grin:

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Quick, you're right. My 44mag is that way. You have to follow through with the trigger or its not goona go off.

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Quick, you're right. My 44mag is that way. You have to follow through with the trigger or its not goona go off.

i'm not in any way doubting you but its just hard for me to believe . is the lock up time on a handi really that bad ??? i've been shoot with fallow thru ever since the guy back on the old H&R talk forum started talking about it but even thou i've not tried it i still have a hard time thinking that it wouldn't fire. if i forget to fallow thru my groups will go to crap but it will still go bang . have you checked you transfer bar to see if anything is broken any where?

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Mitchell, a bunch of Sportster shooters had to send their rifles back to H&R because of failure to fire, the culprit was bad transfer bar timing. Dunno what H&R does to fix it, but they came back working fine.....I haven't tried to figure out how exactly it works other than I know there is a direct relationship with hammer movement and trigger position. Maybe Fred can tell us.... :wink:

The transfer bar is designed to not allow the firing pin to be hit if the trigger isn't pulled.

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Mitchell, a bunch of Sportster shooters had to send their rifles back to H&R because of failure to fire, the culprit was bad transfer bar timing. Dunno what H&R does to fix it, but they came back working fine.....I haven't tried to figure out how exactly it works other than I know there is a direct relationship with hammer movement and trigger position. Maybe Fred can tell us.... :wink:

The transfer bar is designed to not allow the firing pin to be hit if the trigger isn't pulled.
The transfer bar on mine drops too fast no matter what you do. Has anybody tried to build up the hammer so the hammer itself hits the firing pin?
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The transfer bar on mine drops too fast no matter what you do. Has anybody tried to build up the hammer so the hammer itself hits the firing pin?
Replacing the t-bar or modifying/replacing the trigger extension would solve the issue. Modifying the hammer would make it rest on the firing pin since it won't rebound, a better option to eliminate the t-bar is using a vintage rebounding hammer with a half c o c k notch, see the low profile hammer mod part 2 in the FAQs sticky.

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