i guess i'm the oddball here, (my wife would "big suprise...NOT") but at 57, i'm in better shape than anytime in my life. i enjoy doing things that younger men shy away from, and that's a big part of why i'm in good shape, not to mention God gave me an over-abundance of energy! the aches and pains do remind me that i'm no spring chicken, though. dee, i've dealt with a little of the joint issues, but not to that level, yet. i'm sure it's going to catch up with me, and i dread that time! gpa, cutting and splitting wood is one of those that has me in the shape i'm in. i'm sorry to hear your dad is waving the white flag, but i suspect i will have done so by that age!!