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I have a air conditioner that I think the compressor has locked up and as it is old I was thinking of just buying a new outside unit But I was told that the new unites are not compatible with the old a coil and lines as the Freon and oil is different so anyone in the know is this true? My adult son just had his changed and they changed out everything. I know the Freon is different but I would think if you purged the lines and a coil that would fix that part .

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Went on the net and found the answer that nothing is compatible with the old stuff a coil lines and out side unit have to be replaced because of different type of oil and way to expensive to try to flush old stuff.
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You can order a new out door unit from some distributor's with no oil or freon in them. But if the system is R22 the cost of the gas could be really high
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Also the flush is not that bad as there is a product made to do it.
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The question is how good of shape indoor unit is.
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You can order a new out door unit from some distributor's with no oil or freon in them. But if the system is R22 the cost of the gas could be really high
We just went through this and R22 is $100.00 a pound and our old system used 10 pounds. But if his compressoris shot like ours was that was going to be another grand. If they could even find one.
The tech said that the greenies slipped that one one in on us a few years ago. Like they did with R12.
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Went on the net and found the answer that nothing is compatible with the old stuff a coil lines and out side unit have to be replaced because of different type of oil and way to expensive to try to flush old stuff.
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OK. We went through the very same thing and getting that old system up and running again was going to
cost nearly as much as replacing the entire system. We had quotes as high as 8k for a new system but
we found a guy that got us a new Goodman for 5200 installed. You can buy a Goodman system on Amazon
for a couple of grand but I had no idea how to put that in.

I will say this, the Goodman he put in is awesome, much better than our old comfort maker. A lot cheaper to
run also. The tech was able to keep our old copper supply lines where other company's were wanting to
replace them. It's a pain I know but Goodman is supposed to be the Cadillac.
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I hate to say this but when our old original outside unit which was a Bryant went out it was replaced with a Goodman and with the Goodman it was always breaking down because of the contactors going bad I think I had them replaced 4 or 5 times other wise it has worked pretty good. In our area you get what the big contractor supply house is selling which in our area is Goodman. Our local RV supply store in town is selling American Standard and I must say it really looks like a top of the line unit but it is the new freeon type. My son gave me his old Heil 4 ton that is full charged and was working good when removed so I think I will get it installed for now and maybe it will outlast me.

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You can order a new out door unit from some distributor's with no oil or freon in them. But if the system is R22 the cost of the gas could be really high
We just went through this and R22 is $100.00 a pound and our old system used 10 pounds. But if his compressoris shot like ours was that was going to be another grand. If they could even find one.
The tech said that the greenies slipped that one one in on us a few years ago. Like they did with R12.
The dates for stopping production we're set years ago. R12 is still produced for the federal government. It is used as a cleaner in production of certian military products so it is allowed.
In the long run a matched system will in most cases save money .
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Went on the net and found the answer that nothing is compatible with the old stuff a coil lines and out side unit have to be replaced because of different type of oil and way to expensive to try to flush old stuff.
Deaconllb
OK. We went through the very same thing and getting that old system up and running again was going to
cost nearly as much as replacing the entire system. We had quotes as high as 8k for a new system but
we found a guy that got us a new Goodman for 5200 installed. You can buy a Goodman system on Amazon
for a couple of grand but I had no idea how to put that in.

I will say this, the Goodman he put in is awesome, much better than our old comfort maker. A lot cheaper to
run also. The tech was able to keep our old copper supply lines where other company's were wanting to
replace them. It's a pain I know but Goodman is supposed to be the Cadillac.
Around here ants get into the contactor and get crushed between the points. Sometimes you can spread ant killer around the unit to help.
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