It looks like someone is reading the posts! We are on the same page TM77.
Contact tracing using YOU'RE phone that you foot the bill on, reguardless is you want to participate? Don't worry, your Governor won't let an abuse take pace, other than your right to privacy.
15 day quarantine that's now into day 69 is only temporary. It's not like people under stay at home orders are getting C19......oh wait! they are! and in higher percentages.....remember Cuomo was shocked that 60% of those obeying his stay at home order contracted it?
forced mandatory vaccine innoculations for your own good? After all, they now won't allow your child in school without forced compliance, but don't worry, they've reassured you that the child immunizations can't possibly be the cause of autism, it's only coincidence that it didn't exsist like it does today before the mandatory shots. Nothing will happen, and you'll be safer, just like lockdowns. Just be sure to social distance while you stand in line for that C19 vaccine you have no choice about.
The simple solution would be be to just leave your phone at home. No one is forcing you to carry it——-yet. I seldom carry mine. I don’t have to be connected to a phone all the time and only have one to keep my wife and kids pacified when
I go off alone and often “forget” it when I do.
I just read this morning in the newspaper that the status of those who were tested and were positive will no longer be shared with law enforcement agencies. Once that became public news here, Im sure there are lots of lawsuits in the works. Who in HADES gave them permission in the FIRST PLACE!!
Why trace folks movements if your are not going to isolate them from the uninfected folks? The purpose of testing and determining who is infected is to keep them from infecting anyone else. If you don't do that the who thing is a joke. It is like taking a back of M&M's, testing them and finding out 2 of every 50,000,000 will kill you in minutes - then put them all back in bags (randomly) and send them out. What could possibly go wrong... after all only a few people will die...
If you don't absolutely separate ALL the infected from the well - something we won't do - you are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Just drop the charade and go back to life as usual, tell the folks that the lottery in on and some will win, some will lose - sorry losers...
Don't like the first example. How about this:
They track two peoples phones, one stops moving for a few day in the wilderness. They check and find a body. They call up the other phone owner and inform them they found a body. No we're not going to do anything about it, just wanted to know if you know who the next of kin is.
When I was a kid, I got my shots right before I started school. Kindergarten was not manditory. I started 1st grade. So about 5 years old. I have learned that now they give shots to babies so they can go to daycare. I believe this is sometimes too young and can cause autism. They should wait until just before starting school for shots. Now the problem is so many young mothers have to work and take the babies to day care. So the earlier shots. Wish we could get back to the 1950's when mothers stayed home and were home when you got out of school with milk and snacks. She was there if you needed her. She was there if you were sick and had to stay home. Father's made enough money to provide a middle class life. We made everything in America in our own factories which paid middle class wages. People started wanting bigger houses, two cars, good vacations, and so moms went to work. Then they took a lot of that away with Free Trade Agreements and took our factories. In 1960 35% of Americans worked in factories. Today only about 10%. Then with the factories which provided health care by the way, moved, government created a health care problem. In 1960 85% of Americans had health care provided by their work. 5% were unemployed, and 10% were either very poor or were elderly without health care until Medicaid came along.
I do not want to go back to the fifties. Polio was rampant in the warm months and there were other diseases around that would make you seriously sick or kill you. Vaccines have eliminated most of those but the anti-vaxers are helping some of them make a comeback. Inflation has pretty well done away with the single family wage earner. Free trade agreements have destroyed a way of life and our children are suffering for it. NAFTA is bad but most favored nation status for China really did the trick and all thanks to politicans..Daycare while mom works cannot replace a stay at home mom in the lives of little kids.
All modern cars are trackable.
They may not need a cell or smart phone to track you with new technology; for example nanovaccine markers, chip credit cards, or device batteries.
Right now tracking is good down to the
6 foot apart level, hence the 6 foot social distancing orders and training.
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NWBear....
...you would do well to study the Japanese example. Japan has about the lowest Covid disease incidence on Earth; and they did not close schools, restaurants, businesses, social distance, wear mask or freak out. Of course, the Japanese are not compulsory vaccine nuts. Do not vax their kids like child abusers and almost autism. And that's right_ _ this Covid business is likely an immune system storm caused by vaccine contamination and interaction with normal human genome and viral 'terrain'.
Let's face it, we can end this plandemic overnight by doing 2 things.
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TM77
"Let's face it, we can end this plandemic overnight by doing 2 things."
TM, I am open to other ideas. I just proposed one which is proven to work - isolate all infected and let the others go about their business. This is routine practice in most contamination situations. I would really like to hear about the two things that would end this "overnight"; unless one is to stop reporting it... The blind don't need to worry about light pollution.
I would also. But I must say NWBear, your plan is not even possible unless we isolate everyone that has not tested positive for a week or more. So essentially impossible.
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The old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics did, plus Communist China and today's North Korea are all past masters at "contact tracing." They all use(d) the best technology available, and many people ended up in the gulags, as a result !
Socialists love contact tracing..and this "crisis" is a great opportunity to set up their network.
You can't sequester every one who test positive for CV because current test give 50% false positives. The inventor of the test (Cary Mullins) said the PCR methods should never ever be used as a disease diagnostic tool b/c it amplifies up existing viral 'terrain' in a person; and the majority of people have a number of 31 known CV variants in their terrain biome and usually aren't sick.
Matter of fact the exact virus said to cause Covid 19 disease has never been isolated and proven to cause Covid 19 using Koch's Postulates; its a phantom disease likely caused by some other nexus of factors_ _ my guess contaminated vaccines and blood supply via catalyst of a AI engineered changing virus which sickens people primed with various vaccines destroying their immune systems_ _ most notably Flu vaccines which DoD inadvertently let out with their Flu vax-Covid study. Not to mention implicating vaccines in Gulf War disease.
Anyway If you want to end serial plandemics, and improve the health of our children (about sickest on Earth) who are getting sicker and sicker the more vaccines abusers force on them, you need to do only 2 things:
1...repeal or severely amend the Bayh-Dole Act which allows government characters like Fauci and Birx et al to patent and privatize profits from government/taxpayer funded research and inventions. STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY.
2...repeal the Pharma vaccine indemnity law which completely lets Pharma vaccine corps off the hook when they take shortcuts, contaminate vaccines, produce shoddy researched crap, etc. and hold them responsible.
STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY.
Do these 2 things and Americans and our children have a chance to regain health.
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TM77
Don't think TM77 is onto something? They annouced today during their daily covid fear campaign that people in Phillie are indeed staying at home to be safe. How have they arrived at this? By their own admission, they tracked peoples movement by tracking their cell phones!
I must have missed the memo asking permission to violate the privacy of those living in Phillie.......and elsewhere?!?!:tango_face_surprise
Tracing is only one issue. The constitutional issue for a healthy person comes afterwards. When some newly trained contact tracer working from their basement says....You may have been infected. Our app says so.
By the way, you need to self isolate and if you don’t have a conducive environment...we will remove you to a “safe place”. Non compliance with our instructions can result in $2000 / day fines or arrest.
Not far fetched. It comes from the training materials in the OP’s video.
How many people are going to say. Okay, I don’t need that paycheck and it’s okay if you take me or my family member to your quarantine camp.
While suspending vaccinations MIGHT lead to a natural immunity build up (I am not in favor of eliminating vaccinations, too many diseases have been substantially wiped out thru them) it would not be an "overnight" solution. Perhaps it could take a generation or so. I am not opposed to research on this but results will not be instantaneous or short term in my opinion.
On another note I am in support of a firewall between government employment and going back to the private firms you once regulated/influenced. This is a major problem in both government service and politics. Also it happens both ways such as when an executive for a regulated industry is put in charge of the regulatory agency.
i am not against vaccines per sey. Modern vaccines are not at all like old fashion polio or small pox vax produced from attentuated pathogens to produce antigen responses. Those vax usually took 5 to 1o years to license having to prove efficacy and safety criteria.
In the case of flu vax, if it worked, then why do you have to take it every year?
In the case of modern vaccines they're DNA/RNA hacks produced on animal tissues and ABORTION tissues and employ bacteriophages, crispr and other gene editing factors. Consequently they are notoriously contaminated with any number of viruses and macrophages--most notably contaminated with Coronavirus varients. These contaminates are very difficult to remove without ruining the vax, so they don't because the vax corps have no liability for their screwups and carelessness.
Would you buy a car or a firearm knowing the manufacturers are completely liability free from gross and dangerous defects? Probably not- - but you're willing to plunge vaccines into yourself and children with god only knows what! Once that stuff is pumped into you can't remove it; and nobody knows the long term affects and interactions of years of multiple injections. Autism, cancer, chronic fatigue syndrome, Gulf War disease, encephalitis, MS, Parkinson's etc. Etc. Etc.
And when asked to look at these questions Big Pharma , universities, and are alleged regulatory agencies refuse to research these issues; WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NIH, CDC, FDA SHOULD BE DOING! In fact, when asked to do a simple study: 'Has the preponderance and increased use of vaccines improved health outcomes compared to non-vax populations?'' You would think they willingly want to do such a simple study; but they flat out refuse. Why?
So add this last question to my other two points_ _ that is if you want to end 30 years of serial pandemics and regain our nation's health from technocommie dictators. That is if you want to 'flatten the curve' _ _ the Curve of Corruption.
Btw, this last cronyvirus scamdemic looks like biggest ever Great Train Robbery while everybody was put out of work and locked down at home! Your grand kids will be paying fod this one.
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TM77
Thanks for a thoughtful discussion of the issues. I am always open to new findings and ideas - and even change my mind from time to time. I wish more of the discussions here could just be people expressing their opinions/facts and others debating the merits of such. Despite our sometimes disagreement, I really appreciate your thoughtful presentation.
NWB
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