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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 06-01-2019, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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Default You have my attention! NEF? H&R?

You guys have my interest on high. I already own a PardnerII in full rifled 12 GA, that I really like, but I find myself becoming obsessed with the idea of getting a 17HMR NEF or H&R 1871 Handi rifle.

Which is the most inherently accurate model? I like my groundhog guns sub MOA, can the Handi Rifles do that? Also, do I need to be looking at brand new, or older used rifles for the kind of accuracy I want, my understanding is the company has changed hands at least once.

This is new ground for me and I appreciate any input I can get.

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H&R hasn't made any firearms since 2015 when they closed the Ilion NY plant, the only new H&Rs since are the imported repeater shotguns. Most consider the Gardner(1987-early 2008) made guns better in general than the Ilion made guns, the only "new" rifles you'll find are new, old stock. H&R/NEF rimfire rifles with the exception of the Versa Pack are Sportsters, not Handi-rifles which are centerfire, all Sportsters made prior to 2007 are NEF branded, the NEF brand was discontinued in 2007, see the H&R timeline in the FAQs sticky, there's also a build code list to determine when a firearm was made.

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Thats a whole bunch of very useful information. Guess its off to the sticky first, and then keep my eyes open at the gun shows. Thank you much!
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I don't know about the guns you mention but the NEF 20 GA. pump I purchased 3 years ago was made in China . I didn't even think to check were it was made with the name New England Firearms , I assumed that's were it was manufactured . It seems well built ,but I feel like I got flim flamd.
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I don't know about the guns you mention but the NEF 20 GA. pump I purchased 3 years ago was made in China . I didn't even think to check were it was made with the name New England Firearms , I assumed that's were it was manufactured . It seems well built ,but I feel like I got flim flamd.
The Pardner Pump/Protector 870 clone has always been imported from China, still is.

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The Pardner Pump/Protector 870 clone has always been imported from China, still is.

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There are just certain things I don't want from Chiny , and firearms are one of them . Admittedly It was my fault for not reading the fine print .
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I don't know about the guns you mention but the NEF 20 GA. pump I purchased 3 years ago was made in China . I didn't even think to check were it was made with the name New England Firearms , I assumed that's were it was manufactured . It seems well built ,but I feel like I got flim flamd.


There are just certain things I don't want from Chiny , and firearms are one of them . Admittedly It was my fault for not reading the fine print .

While you can knock a lot of Chinese made goods, The Pardner Pump/Protector 870 clone, is a pretty good deal for the price. Some of the parts are even interchangeable with the Remington 870.

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