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An H&R, Inc. Model 157 22 WMR rifle made in 1976 had an offset firing pin.

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Its been a long time coming but should be here tomorrow
Now a little more help fellas I really want to do a 5mm rimfire barrel so have been looking out for something stub which is near impossible down here, just today I found a 158 12 gauge.


Would this barrel be suitable to stub for my 157?
Would the outside of the stub be the same size as my 22 magnum? hard to imagine a 12 gauge being the same size outer chamber area.


As you can plainly see this is the beginning of a H&R journey for me so I know nothing at all and hope you blokes can put up with the dumb questions


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I just measured a 17HMR barrel breech and a 20 Gauge breach. They both measured right at 28.4 mm (1.118 inches). As for fitting, that is a hit or miss scenario - it may snap right on or it may require some fitting - either shimming or removing a little metal from the lug - instructions on fitting are here in the stickies at the top of this forum. The fit can me addressed during the stubbing process. The stud holding the forend on can be a bit of a problem - on my 157's (I have a 22 Hornet and a 30-30) the stud is smaller and further forward than on a shotgun barrel, but in discussions here, it appears that some may have used a stud in the same location. Mine use a sling swivel stud to hold the forend on.



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Its been a long time coming but should be here tomorrow
Now a little more help fellas I really want to do a 5mm rimfire barrel so have been looking out for something stub which is near impossible down here, just today I found a 158 12 gauge.


Would this barrel be suitable to stub for my 157?
Would the outside of the stub be the same size as my 22 magnum? hard to imagine a 12 gauge being the same size outer chamber area.


As you can plainly see this is the beginning of a H&R journey for me so I know nothing at all and hope you blokes can put up with the dumb questions


John

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SEK thanks for the reply, just picked up the rifle and love the feel, it has a cheap 4x mounted on it i'll likely upgrade that.
Fired a shot and it goes bang which is good eh, firing pin strike is light so I would be concerned it might not work so well on the wider rim of the 5mm though I believe some have re chambered 17 HMR to 17 WSM and that worked,


Found a Topper 158 12 gauge here listed as fair but at about $100.00 USD might be worth buying just need to find the diameter of the 12 gauge at the chamber area


I measured the 22 mag barrel and got the same measurement you did now need to check a 12 gauge


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Chamber area on the 12 gauge is the same as the 20 - I spent this afternoon working on a stub using a 12 gauge barrel. This is my first stub and so far so good. Mine will be a 32 H&R Magnum - or maybe 327 Magnum - I'll see which way it goes when I get the stub ready to chamber. The 20 gauge was what I had handy when I took the measurement - my 12 gauge donor barrels were in my shop. Only problem with a 12 gauge barrel as a donor for the sub is it pretty thin in the chamber area so on mine I'm going to use epoxy to hold the new barrel in place rather than try to thread anything - not very experiences with my lathe either so avoiding cutting threads partly for that reason as well.

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Good luck on the project, will you be running a thread on this if so can you post photos as you go


Do you have another 20 gauge stub you would part with? it would'nt be a problem to post over, also happy to buy the 12 gauge and do a parts exchange if that helps you


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I wish that I had a 20 gauge barrel to use as a stub but all I could find was a couple 12 gauge barrels. Evn if I had a spare, it would be illegal for me to send it to you. Here is a link to the thread I started on my stub project.



https://www.go2gbo.com/forums/108-h-...post2055956376

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Fingers crossed I may have a 410 barrel in the works, maybe that would be better perhaps it could be re lined with a 20 cal liner .


I shot the 22 magnum barrel for the first time with a cheap 4x scope and I was really happy, a few misfires so need to look for a stronger firing pin spring I guess also wondering if there is a picatinny rail available


Here's a photo of the chamber end of the barrel, I am unsure of why the two outer pins are located differently than other barrels ive seen. Even though my 157 is 22 mag they were made in hornet & 30-30 yes? so what is barrel called Sb1 or 2






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H&R Inc frames had no SB designation, that didn't happen until NEF started production in 1987, H&R inc went out of business in 1986, all of their frames were ductile cast iron similar to SB1.

There are several scope bases made for the H&R/NEF, at least a couple picatinny, all shown in the FAQs sticky.

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I have been busy with my stub project so just had a chance to read this. Glad you like he way it shoots! As for a Picatinny rail - I have seen them here in the US but have no idea what might be available there. A 410 barrel should work fine for either adding a liner or stubbing - although turning a liner for a full length liner might be a fun job. A liner would look nicer in my opinion.

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