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I'm not sure which is cheaper, but the Hornady .430" 265gr FP shoots very well in my Huntsman with BH209, a green Harvester ez load sabot, and a 209 primer. I can't imagine shooting it fast enough to flatten out. That's a .444 Marlin bullet.

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I believe that the range's dirt berm causes more expansion than if they had gone through a deer.

I forgot we did catch one more of those 270 Gold Dot bullets in a deer that my Dad shot with the Handi .44 Mag. It had ran up and past his treestand and was standing about 20 yards away almost perfectly facing away. Dad centered up the crosshairs on where the bullet would pass through the center of the chest and fired. It entered just right of the spine in front of the hips and it was found under the hide on the left side of the brisket. It was not mushroomed anywhere near as much as the one I dug out of the 100 yard berm.

I only looked at Natchez, but the Speer 270s were $27 per hundred and they wanted $41 per 100 for the 265 FPs!!


I just got some more Harvestor 50/429 sabots and would like to try my 270 Speers and also those 265 FTX that I got off of you to see if they shoot anything like those 250 Shockwaves did in my Sidekick.

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Deep curl .44 mags seem to work well. In the below link, scroll down to post #4.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/t...estions.24035/

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Deep curl .44 mags seem to work well. In the below link, scroll down to post #4.

https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/t...estions.24035/

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Yes, I might change to that .45 300 grain hollowpoint Deep Curl pictured there if the .429 270 grain flatpoint does not work out in the Sidekick.

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Those DC 270’s are great bullets I dont see why they wouldnt be just as good in the BP rifle.

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I was just saying accuracy-wise if I could not get the 270's to group under an inch.

I'm under 1/2 inch with factory 250 SST (+ knurled) in the supplied black sabots right now. But I would like to use the 270 Deep Curl (Gold Dot) because I have history with them doing the job in .44 Mag as well as my Renegade. 300 HP Deep Curl would be choice #2 to try.

I just keep hearing stories of the 250 SST grenading, but maybe they are being pushed over 2,000 fps when that happens. I'm also a fan of heavy-for-caliber and mostly used the 275 and 300 .430 XTP's when I was starting out with the muzzleloaders. Wish Hornady had never discontinued the 275 XTP! When I switched to the SST/Shockwaves, I was always using the 300 grainers. I still use the .430 300 XTP and .429 270 DC in the Renegade and it puts the hurt on them just fine, but those shots are 100 yards and closer with the open sights.

I was given some muzzleloading supplies and the 250 SST's were among them and I just happened to try them in the Sidekick and they overlap holes at 100 yards. They were running 1897 fps @ 15' from the muzzle.

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Anyone have any experience with the 44cal 300gr XTP in a 50cal ML? The 240gr XTP killed my buck last year in it's tracks, but I lost alot of meat to bullet impact and rapid expansion. The bullet core and jacket separated and did not exit.

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You know my thought on 43 Mags Dinny. 😉 (45’s are superior) Id go with a heavier bullet. Maybe even try these Deep Curls.

I have used two of the ftx on deer in my 450 Bushmaster. Both where lung shots. One was a 250 ftx the second was a 300 yello tip made for muzzle Loaders.
The 250 was maybe 40 yards center of lungs much damage entrance & exit. Impact velocity 2k +
The 300 Shock Wave (yello tip FTX) was nearly identical but impact was 75-80 yards center of lungs. Pulped lungs and exited. Velocity probably mid 1600’s

Neither had excessively large exit maybe quarter sized. Both animals traveled short distance after impact. .

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My only experience with the .430 300 XTP has been in several muzzleloaders with a load of 90 grains FFg Goex or 75 grains of 777. Never ever found a bullet to diagnose expansion, but expansion was evident in the carcass. No BIG offside exit, but tracking was easy for me being colorblind and short trails. Most of the time I didn't need to track because they went less than 50 yards.

If you already have them, they are good. However, after seeing the .45 300 grain Deep Curl expansion photo (ironglow's link above) out to 300 yards, I believe that I may have to get a box to see what kind of accuracy I can get out of those!

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Today I got a box of the .429" 270gr DC and .452" 300gr GD bullets to try out in my Huntsman. If it doesn't like them I still have other 44 Mag and 45 Colt rifles and pistols to use them in.

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Today is opening day of firearms season here in Illinois and this morning I was able to harvest a mature doe. Since I wasn't able to harvest anything last year I was itching to see how the 270 Deep Curl would perform for me. I would say I was pleased. 1 shot 1 kill.

Shot was at roughly 60-65 yrds.
Perfect broadside, and calm deer. (bean field)
Complete pass thru.
After the shot deer went approximately 40 yrds before going down.
I will say the shot was a little higher than where I usually like to hit them but still a good hit.
The higher hit resulted in basically no blood trail but when you can watch them go down and they only go around 40 yrds it's no big deal.
I do have 2 more permits so hopefully I'll get a couple more chances to try this bullet this year.


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