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I have a sb1 shotgun and a sb2 rifle, each have several barrels for each frame, can I put a huntsman or sidekick muzzle loader on eaither frame? And does anyone have more information on the huntsman barrel? Type of powder,
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late huntsman should work on either, may have to do some fitting. side kick will not, it will only work on a side kick frame, they are shorter from lug to face. this is so centerfires won't fit a side kick and are there fore not regulated.
all the later BP barrels are modern and will handle normal charges of pyrodex or black horn. you should check the facts at the top of this forum.

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What about a newer huntsman, the one I have the opportunity to buy has a 209 plug, not the cap carrier I guess?
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What about a newer huntsman, the one I have the opportunity to buy has a 209 plug, not the cap carrier I guess?
The new Huntsman barrels will fit. That's why the Huntsman guns have to go through an FFL.
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And does anyone have more information on the huntsman barrel? Type of powder,
See the Huntsman manuals sticky near the top of this forum.

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QUOTE=Jonmarshall;2055914166]I have a sb1 shotgun and a sb2 rifle, each have several barrels for each frame, can I put a huntsman or sidekick muzzle loader on eaither frame? And does anyone have more information on the huntsman barrel? Type of powder,[/QUOTE]


Maybe I can help by explaining a little bit more. You stated you currently have a SB1 (shotgun) and an SB2 (rifle), and want to know if you can put a Huntsman barrel on either frame. First you have to understand that their were two (2) versions of the Huntsman. The older versions had a "push-in" and also a "screw-in" type breech plug.

The newer versions also had a "screw-in" type breech plug, which used the 209 shotgun primer carrier. I'm assuming that the Huntsman that your interested in buying is the newer one, which originally used the 209 shotgun primer carrier, and has been upgraded to use the 209 shotgun primer without the primer carrier. If this is correct, then the answer is: Yes, you can put the barrel on either frame. If you ask for my advice, I would use the shotgun (SB1) frame for the Huntsman.


Regarding your question about the Sidekick; the Sidekick barrel will not fit on the SB1 or SB2 frames , if you decide to purchase the Sidekick, you have to buy the complete Sidekick rifle, frame and barrel together for it to shoot/function.

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A statement of fact: H&R Huntsman & Sidekick blued barrels are made of 4140 steel.

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And does anyone have more information on the huntsman barrel? Type of powder,
If your asking what type of powder to use. You can use real black powder, or any of the black powder substitutes. Pyrodex, Triple 7, or Blackhorn 209, are most commonly used. Pyrodex, and Triple 7, come in loose powder or pellet form, Blackhorn 209 only comes in loose powder form.


If your asking for a specific load, to use in the Huntsman, I use two (50grain) pellets of Triple 7 (don't use more than two), under a 240grain all lead hollow point saboted bullet, and Winchester blackpowder 209 primers. Actually you can use regular 209 shotgun primers if you can't find the 209 muzzleloader primers. I don't see much difference in the point of impact using either one. The link below is for the bullets I use, they are called TC Cheapshots.


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...let-pack-of-20


For primers:


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/32...ing-box-of-100


For powders:


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/44...-grain-pellets


When you have a little more experience, you might want to try loose powders, but if your using the Huntsman only to hunt, the pellets will do you fine. Remember to clean you barrel immediately after firing (same day) otherwise it'll rust. Best of luck.

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QUOTE=Jonmarshall;2055914166]I have a sb1 shotgun and a sb2 rifle, each have several barrels for each frame, can I put a huntsman or sidekick muzzle loader on eaither frame? And does anyone have more information on the huntsman barrel? Type of powder,

Maybe I can help by explaining a little bit more. You stated you currently have a SB1 (shotgun) and an SB2 (rifle), and want to know if you can put a Huntsman barrel on either frame. First you have to understand that their were two (2) versions of the Huntsman. The older versions had a "push-in" and also a "screw-in" type breech plug.

The newer versions also had a "screw-in" type breech plug, which used the 209 shotgun primer carrier. I'm assuming that the Huntsman that your interested in buying is the newer one, which originally used the 209 shotgun primer carrier, and has been upgraded to use the 209 shotgun primer without the primer carrier. If this is correct, then the answer is: Yes, you can put the barrel on either frame. If you ask for my advice, I would use the shotgun (SB1) frame for the Huntsman.


Regarding your question about the Sidekick; the Sidekick barrel will not fit on the SB1 or SB2 frames , if you decide to purchase the Sidekick, you have to buy the complete Sidekick rifle, frame and barrel together for it to shoot/function.[/QUOTE]


Your reply might be confusing to some. So let me try to clarify. The old Huntsmans with both the screw in and push in plugs in .45, 58 and 12 ga, do not fit either an SB1 or SB frame. They only fit the "Old" Huntsman frames. The new Huntsman barrel is only .50 cal as I understand it.



Now my question is, do the "Old" Huntsman barrels fit the Sidekick frames?
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"Now my question is, do the "Old" Huntsman barrels fit the Sidekick frames?"
Have never owned a Sidekick, but I don't think so. Another clarification which I can address from experience is that in the old Huntsmans, .45 barrels only fit .45 frames, .58 barrels only fit .58 frames and 12 ga. barrels only fit 12 ga. frames.
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Interesting, I have all three calibers, but never tried swapping the barrels.
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