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I've been the happy owner of several NEF R73's and a Taurus M327 that I also really enjoy. I shoot mostly 32 Long Wadcutters out of them than anything else. Was this Cartridge ever adopted by law enforcement in the 80's or 90's before semi autos took over the universe?


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No.

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Not to the best of my knowledge.

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Once upon a time many police officers in this country carried 32's and European police were almost exclusively 32's, back when they actually were allowed to carry guns.
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I think NYC police carried some 32 long revolvers back in the early 1900s. But the 38 special was the accepted normal police issue revolver before the auto craze hit. 38 special then gave way to 357mag in some departments.

The 32 H&R mag is relative New on the scene. And while some Leo may have carried one for backup I don't think it was ever a issue weapon.

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You said you wanted to discuss the cartridge. But nobody really has to this point. To me the 32 H&R mag and the following 327 federal cartridge are great small game hunting cartridges. The old 32/20 pistol round can be almost duplicated by the 32 H&R mag round and the 327 federal will just about duplicate the old 32/20 rifle load.

I really love both in a revolver.

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I concur.

.32 has become my darling, in all its flavors. .32 long, .32 longer (H&R), and .32 longest (Fed Mag). It occurred to me this began with .32 (5) WSM, and makes me further realize I want a .32 special.


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I think NYC police carried some 32 long revolvers back in the early 1900s.
...as directed by then NYC Police Commissioner Theodore Roosevelt.
As for the .32 H&R Mag, I've always wondered why it has never been offered with a heavier bullet?
85-90 gr. is all I've ever seen it loaded with, but I've always thought of the mag as a modern interpretation of the .32-20 and it came loaded with a 115 grainer.
...maybe a lead SWC with a MV of around 900 fps?
I guess this one will end up being a handloaders special...and that's ok.


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You said you wanted to discuss the cartridge. But nobody really has to this point. To me the 32 H&R mag and the following 327 federal cartridge are great small game hunting cartridges...
I agree, and I love the cartridge in my revolvers.

I reload and shoot 32 Shorts, 32 Longs and the H&R Magnum.

As much as I love my H&R Sportsman and near-mint USRA single-shot pistol, as well as the other 5 or 6 long-barreled H&R top-breaks that I have in my collection (22's, 32's and 38 S&W's)...

This is what I think helped doom the 32 H&R Magnum from being a more popular round...


Putting "H&R" in the name.

There, I said it...

I do think there's an element of that in the poor adoption and low popularity of the round.

We already had the "32 Short" and "32 Long" (as well as the older "Colt" variations on both), and to me -- they should have just called it the "32 Magnum" with no company affiliation noted at all.

Let's be honest here... Older H&R revolvers, with a possible exception of the very nice later model 999 Sportsman's (which even the most ardent S&W snobs would not pay any attention to...) just didn't garner a great reputation for strength, quality or accuracy. Therefore, I'm thinking that having "H&R" in the name really didn't help generate any extra following, and probably turned off quite a few shooters from even trying it.

True -- as those who do load and shoot it have found out, with myself included -- the 32 H&R Magnum is a terrific round for hunting and plinking, and after doing some bullet tests into water jugs with my S&W Models 631 or 16 (note that I'm not shooting the H&R Mag in any H&R's...) -- it is very effective at self defense. I know I wouldn't want to get shot with it!!!

I do love my collection of older H&R Top Breaks, all the way from the early 1900's, up to one of the last nice Sportsman made, but as noted above...

When I shoot the "32 H&R Magnum" -- it's done in my Smith & Wesson "32 Magnum" revolvers.

I'm sure this reply might generate some discussion, but that's what the original poster wanted, right?!

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