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Iran finances terrorism to the tune of a billion dollars ($1,000,000,000) per year. Just think for a moment..a couple years ago, Obama gave

Iran enough to keep them in the terrorism business for 155 years ! ...And that is assuming the account doesn't pay interest !

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-iran-terrorism-isis-al-qaeda

How many Americans will die because of Obama's gift ?

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"The Tehran regime has spent nearly $1 billion per year to support terror groups "that serve as its proxies and expand its malign influence across the globe," the State Department said. Those groups include Hezbollah, Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad."

Yep those are certainly the groups I think of when thinking about attacks on AMERICANS - NOT Al Qaeda, ISIS, etc.
 
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Looks like the Iranians are coming to Trump's aid to fry the Deep State by releasing details on CIA agent Levinson (held for years), but abandoned by Brennan-Mueller-Hillary-Obama who stole the millions put up by a Russian aristocrat to secure Levinson's release.
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Iran Focus ..... ? Good one 😄

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According to their website, Iran Focus is a U.K-based "non-profit news service provider that focuses on events in Iran, Iraq and the Middle East ... dedicated to providing comprehensive, up-to-date information and news on the Persian Gulf region in a fair and balanced manner." [1](Italics added)

The nonprofit claim is impossible to verify as the site provides no information on their source of funding, their board of directors or even their staff. None of the articles written by Iran Focus carry a byline and the "sources" they cite are often unidentified.

The domain name registration for the site is in the name of Mohammad Hanif Jazayeri, who is Iran Focus’ current executive editor. Jazayeri is a 21 year old student from Great Britain whose parents both have been members of the People's Mojahedin Organisation of Iran PMOI, a political arm of the MKO. Hanif has been campaigning to have the PMOI removed from the UK list of designated terrorist organisations. [2]

In his article ‘Iran Focus: The MKO Propaganda Machine’ Nema Milaninia reports that Iran Focus is an agency run by the the Mojahdin-e-khalq organization, MKO, MEK an Iranian opposition group named as a terrorist organization by the US State Department. He claims that the news outlet is used as a tool for disseminating propaganda in order to:

1. Remove the MKO from the UK’s and USA’s list of terrorist organizations.
2. Present the MKO and its associated bodies as a legitimate opposition group and the “democratic” alternative to the current Iranian government. [3]
Regardless of whether Iran Focus is affiliated with the MKO, the "fair and balanced" label is questionable at best. Their attempts to paint the current government in Iran as evil is obvious. The pro PMOI slant to their stories is also readily apparent. [4] [5] [6]

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Nema Milaninia, "Iran Focus: The MKO Propaganda Machine", Iranian Truth, July 13th, 2005.
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""Those groups include." That does not rule out Al Qaeda or isis, etc."

This illustrates the total ignorance of the Middle East situation. Tehran would never support Al Qaeda or ISIS since they are Sunni. But keep on supporting Saudi Arabia the #1 builder of Islamic schools (madrasas) and the real Supporter of the Sunni TERRORISTS we have been fighting for almost 20 years. Interesting that the article conflates Iran, Al Qaeda and ISIS all together when they are mortal enemies; so much for informed writing. Quick which is Pakistan, Sunni or Shia??? Aligned with Saudi Arabia or Iran??? It matters since they actually HAVE NUKES...

"So, it doesn't matter if they sponsor terrorists who kill Germans, Irish, Poles or Sudanese?"

I thought our king supports "America First", who cares about NATO?????
 
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From NWB;

"I thought our king supports "America First", who cares about NATO?????
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"OUR KING"? Who is our king? ..The Demon-rats haven't taken over yet; even if they do, it wouldn't be a king..more likely it would be "chairman", or possibly Generalissimo..

So far as NATO is concerned, it is a worthwhile endeavor. I am all for it, since my grandson makes a good living working for NATO, but there are a couple problems with the organization..

1) NATO should review Turkey's standing within the group.

2) Perhaps you think it is of no importance, but many of us (including the president) believe that NATO members should pay what they promised.

What do you call people who refuse to pay what they promised?

So far as Iran is concerned, perhaps the label of "total ignorance" should be applied elsewhere. Perhaps some are ignorant of the old Muslim axiom, which says... " The enemy of my enemy, is my friend".

Surely, either America or Israel would be considered a greater enemy than a fellow Muslim.

I would venture that anyone inspired by Satan..will kill no matter who it is ! It is the nature of their boss..

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NWbear....

Good points last post.
Iran is the next designated enemy of certain people, evangelicals, Israel, Sunnis and the Deep State. The fact is Iran is under state sponsored attack almost weekly.

Fortunately it appears Trump has awakened more to the operations and psy-ops of the deep state, and a behind scenes thaw in Iran and US relations may be occurring.
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I was speaking (via the video) about Islam. You're not saying the Iranian mullahs are Presbyterians, are you ?

Are we just supposed to ignore these murders?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achille_Lauro_hijacking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Stethem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Mark_Berger

Some of the Palestinian sweeties;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_Organization

Then, there is this small detail; 35913 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11/01

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx




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Why must we hash this out constantly with you lefties? Iraq not only harbored terrorists, from the Achille Lauro where an American was killed, but paid off families of suicide bombers. The Afghanis?, they harbored Osama, no not that one, the other one (you can add Pakistan too). Iran, plenty of hardened IEDs with their fingerprints all over them accounting for a bunch of American dead and wounded. Libya? Forget Lockerbie bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 already? Sunni, Shiite, ordinary goat herding terrorist it makes no difference, when they attack us, we attack back, it may take us a minute to get them but we have a long memory.
 
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IG....murderers need to be apprehended and brought to justice. Religionofpeace is a deep state outfit promoting racism and hatred on an international level.

IED and IDL devices may or may not be Iranian sourced according to Bush era show and tell sketchy press releases. In any event nobody knows what percentage are Iranian, Pakistani, Chinese, Saudi, UAE, Syrian, Israeli, or British given the lucrative ME arms trade.
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Omega...

Sorry, but your Mil Times link is a rehash of the same old tired rhetoric trying to tie Iran into Bush's fiasco in Iracq. There is simply no proof that IED and similar devices all originate from Iran.....that's not proven regardless of US Mil allegations given the ME arms trade.

I remember these show and tell press conferences held by G2 wanting to indict Iran as sole IED suppliers.....NO CAMERAS, NO RECORDERS, LIMITED QUESTIONS, NO CLOSE EXAMINATION OF EXHIBITS, SKETCHY ALLUSIONS TO WELDS, and other BS. And no accounting of other weapons coming from a dozen or more other sources.

The whole 'process' was like a soviet stylized tribunal, much like we see today with the current soviet style coup impeachment show by neocons.
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You're nobody's fool. Read those links. They're short on hard evidence and long on accusations by the usual (often unnamed) MIC-Neocon pundits; speaking vaque generalisations to expand their world struggle to Iran. Business as usual for them.

Many al ciada, isis, or whatever they're called this month, carry/use weaponry from all around the world _ _ such is the ME arms trade. Are we to bomb India for each Indian AK47 used to kill GI's, or bomb Germany for each 82mm mortar round, or Turkey for each pistol found in radical mussie hands?

The fact is when Bush nation destroyed Iracq and let chaos reign, sunni al ciada radicals flowed into shite Iran and joined up with al Jundala to sow maximum chaos in Iran. (Throw in sanctions). Further, fact is given the complexity of the ME arms trade, to place total blame on Iran for US losses and woes, such as Mil Times attempts to do, is just plain deceitful.
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Shia and Sunni are mortal enemies. ISIS and Al Qaeda are Sunni. Iran is Shia. It was Iran and Hezbollah who allied with the Syrian army and Russia to defeat ISIS and Al Qaeda forces sent into Syria. I have no doubt that Iran finances "terrorists", whatever that means, but it was not Iran who financed, trained, and poured ISIS and Al Qaeda forces into Libya or Syria. Iran eats ISIS and Al Qaeda for breakfast.
I think most countries have their proxy "terrorists", and Iran is no different, but, I highly doubt Iran came anywhere close to spending as much money as the US taxpayer spent in arming, training, deploying, and supporting ISIS and Al Qaeda forces in Syria. They have always been western intelligence assets. Those were not hundreds of thousands of tons of pizza's being shipped from Libya into Turkey and Jordan by Hillary's State Department. 21 trillion dollars lost off the Pentagon books in ten years alone, not even counting whatever the CIA pulled in from drug trafficking.
Not a big fan Iran, but I am also not proud of what our government has done in the Middle Eastern Campaign.
 
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At the end of the day, I think Saudi Arabia is THE major terrorist supporting country in the world. They are also the largest buyer of US weapons, which are transferred to other Sunni terrorist groups throughout the Middle East and rest of the world.
I realize there is no love for the US government in Iran, but a lot of that stems from US foreign policy starting back in the fifties when we overthrew the Iranian government the first time and installed a brutal dictator, which took them 20 years to finally throw out...and the US has been starving Iranians with sanctions ever since. The Iranian people are never going let another US government be installed in Iran, and we just don't have the resources to occupy Iran and defeat 90 million people, let alone deal with a regional Shia uprising across the entire Middle East.
If I were going to get rid of the "Mother of all Terrorism", I would start with Saudi Arabia first. Then, after shutting down the worst terrorist country, I would seriously consider surrounding Langley with the marines and shutting down the CIA, and declassifying everything on site, but hey, that's just me, and I'm not the President, lucky for the Saudi's and the intelligence agencies...lol.
 
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While the Saudis are no real friend of the US, no fanatically Muslim nation is. However, the US state department says there are 4 countries which are "state sponsors of terrorism.

https://www.state.gov/state-sponsors-of-terrorism/

That being said, ...let's look at the modern relationship between the US and Iran

So, when was the last time that Saudi Arabia took captive the entire US embassy and all it's personnel..and held them prisoners for over 440 days?

Yes, the US helped to install the Shah. and although he ruled as a stern leader, the country was progressing. Women were allowed to attend school up through college, and they didn't have to run around in black cloth garbage bags. And homosexuals were not being hurled off roofs. No men were being beheaded and women were not being stoned to death..

….But do you suppose for even one minute, that the average Iranian citizen is filled with joy that the Shah has been replaced with the bloody mullahs?


The US hasn't been starving the Iranians...those ugly mullahs have! If they would just deal openly and HONESTLY, there would be no restrictions upon them !



.The mullahs are like the little boy who insists on playing with fire...then whines and cries when he gets burned.

If they want to deal with civilized nations..they should act like a civilized country..and crawl back up from the 7th century. The Shah had elevated them into the 20th century.

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Omega was stationed in the ME. I'm petty sure he knows what he is talking about. I was EOD for awhile but
we never ran into any IED, not way back then. Mostly just ordinance that had been buried a long time in
Iceland and Cuba. And needed to be removed. Some of it in Iceland dated back to WW II.

Mostly old British stuff, and some German bombs dropped by aircraft that didnt explode. So the locals just
buried over it.
 
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I respect your opinion, Ironglow, but the US State Dept. is probably the last place I would trust to tell me who my real enemies are. In the interest of fighting terrorism, I would probably clean out the State Dept., along with the CIA, NSA, MIA, and all the rest. I guess after all the MOAB stories used to get us into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, etc., and 3 plus years of an ongoing coup against an elected US government (by these same US government agencies), I just don't have much use for what any federal agency tells me about anything. But, I respect your opinion, sir, and should you get your wish and we destroy Iran, I hope we also destroy Saudi Arabia, the US State Dept, NATO, all the western intelligence agencies, and the entire Military Congressional Complex...just to be sure, of course, in case it turns out it wasn't really Iran, like all the other countries we have destroyed.
 
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Just a reminder.. Pres Trump is doing it right, by starving the deep state. If one were to get rid of all the entities you are talking about, that would leave a huge vacuum.

Nature abhors vacuum...so what better ideology is waiting in the wings to fill that vacuum? Socialism, communism, an oligharcy..or a dictatorship ?

Every one of those ideologies are easy to VOTE IN...but we would have to fight our WAY OUT. That's why we see the socialist/communists fighting to take our guns!

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Not that simple...

The original weapons deal was with the government of the Shah, not a bunch of terrorist mullahs !

You know very well that the Iranian mullahs took our entire embassy captive for 444 days. It was terrorist kidnapping, and some people became quite ill, due to poor medical care and neglect, so the funds were seized until the coming lawsuits were settled, and the Iranians exhibited a more peaceful, non-terrorist attitude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frozen_assets

It was with extreme disregard for the Americans who were unlawfully imprisoned by Iran, that the president would hand back that money, since the various lawsuits by imprisoned Americans were nowhere near all settled !

https://www.govexec.com/defense/201...revolution-may-finally-be-compensated/110260/

And that is not even considering the phony "captivity" of American sailors..which should have NEVER happened !
 

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IG...

It was just a few months after the Iranian Revolution that activists seized the US 0embassy claiming it was a den of spies engineering a counter revolt. Secondly, they wanted the Shah and the funds he stole returned to Iran. I believe there i ssome truth in their claims. And this was 40 years ago!

Unfortunately for you, your racial and relgious hatred of Iranians always shines thru in your scheme of things.

I suggest you and I are nearing our end days, and perhaps it is not wise for either of us going to our graves harboring hatred to any people.
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Then you consider it "fair game" if the countries of the world take the various entire embassy personnel captive whenever they are displeased?

Forty years ago? Since the same hate merchants are in charge, does it make a difference whether it is 40 years or 80 years ago?

Moreover, they are still playing dangerous games..recently taking some of our sailors prisoner and holding them for for ransom. Meanwhile our C-in-C was of no use in the case.

I have no "racial hatred" for the Persians or anyone else..but I will confess to a distrust of the religious fanatics present within the folds of Islam, and I believe they have earned it !

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You must be confused (or disingenuous). Your above link is citing cash for some other 4 prisoners. CIA often tries to buy back some of their operators. Its not about our navy guys drifting into their waters.

Of course the Iranians boarded our vessels in the same manner our Coast Guard boards vessels--i.e. 'down on knees hands on head'. The Iranians had to play it safe b/c there might of been a young IG on board he!!bent on hothead heroics.

As it was the whole incident worked out amicably, and why you're disenchanted is odd and racially motivated from the sound of your rhetoric.
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