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Telling congress would be like telling one enemy what you are about to do to another enemy! Hey, they labeled themselves!
Surely, if they didn't flinch when Barack Hussein handed over $155 billion to the #1 terrorist nation, we can't expect them to flinch about handing over confidential action plans..

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The killing of Soliemani was not the work of geniuses. He flew commercially to Iracq to attend the funeral of 31 Iraquis killed by Americans around Christmas. He was on an announced state visit. I can see this stunt blowing up policy in Trump's face_ _Sadr gaining power and Americans told to get out.

Moreover, Iranian islamic 'Qisas' (payback) is now in play.....who, when, where is the question.

This is all interesting while in the background 280 contractor families are currently suing the Pentagon for consorting with 'terrorists' and causing the death of loved ones!

Trump needs to broaden his ME policy from Irancentric; because everything happening in the region is not driven by Iran as Netanyahu and the Pentagon claims. He also needs to consider if we have viable defenses against Avangaard missile systems despite what mil 'experts' claim.
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The killing of Soliemani was not the work of geniuses. He flew commercially to Iracq to attend the funeral of 31 Iraquis killed by Americans around Christmas. He was on an announced state visit. I can see this stunt blowing up policy in Trump's face_ _Sadr gaining power and Americans told to get out.

Moreover, Iranian islamic 'Qisas' (payback) is now in play.....who, when, where is the question.

This is all interesting while in the background 280 contractor families are currently suing the Pentagon for consorting with 'terrorists' and causing the death of loved ones!

Trump needs to broaden his ME policy from Irancentric; because everything happening in the region is not driven by Iran as Netanyahu and the Pentagon claims. He also needs to consider if we have viable defenses against Avangaard missile systems despite what mil 'experts' claim.
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Yeah...big mistake ! Do you suppose those mullahs will be mad at us now ?

I guess the terrorism they have been committing all these years, since Jimma handed Iran over to them..has just been "love pats"..

C'mon TM...don't start sounding like MSNBC or CNN !

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"since Jimma handed Iran over to them"

I guess I missed the treaty where the United States was obliged to start "allowing" countries to exist on their own????? I wonder who we should have "given" Iran to after we "gave" it to the Shah????? It is an interesting concept... Actually one that Briton used after WW I, wonder how that worked out for them long term...
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"since Jimma handed Iran over to them"

I guess I missed the treaty where the United States was obliged to start "allowing" countries to exist on their own????? I wonder who we should have "given" Iran to after we "gave" it to the Shah????? It is an interesting concept... Actually one that Briton used after WW I, wonder how that worked out for them long term...
Carters botched handling of Iran was one of the great foreign policy disasters of all time and it was a major contributing factor in why he was not re-elected. he really blew it big time.

It's easy to forget that because his domestic policies were disastrous too.

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Alot less Jimmy gave back Iran politicized meme _ _ and alot more like they kicked the puppet Shah out and took back their country. In fact that 150 billion IG harps on and on about was alot ofthe Shah's stolen monies.

With Trump introducing assassination of state figures on official announced business it remains to be seen who will be the first American official victim.

In any case Iracq and Iran will likely bring the Soliemani killing up for a general UN resolution against the USA; and if passed may result in the USA forced out of Iracq, or minamally result in forcing certain nations abandoning our ME 'coalition'.

Meanwhile Turkey threatens kicking US forces entirely out of Turkey while US occupies Syrian oil fields. Russia and China with Iram practice joint mil exercises.
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"With Trump introducing assassination of state figures on official announced business it remains to be seen who will be the first American official victim."

Perhaps we should ask Putin how to do it with a plutonium tipped umbrella or poison door knobs; then we could exclaim "surprise" when our targets die...
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"With Trump introducing assassination of state figures on official announced business it remains to be seen who will be the first American official victim."

Perhaps we should ask Putin how to do it with a plutonium tipped umbrella or poison door knobs; then we could exclaim "surprise" when our targets die...
Call it assassination if you wish, but it was defense of American interests, since he was behind the killing an American, and wounding several other Americans, just a short time ago.

Then this Soleimani came upon the scene to direct the attack upon our embassy...now that he has slacked off on killing Iranian anti-mullah demonstrators back home.

We elected Pres trump partly because too often Repugnicans would not fight back against our leftists at home, and the Demonrats would not take care of our interests overseas..

Now we have a president who covers both those neglected duties of the C-in-C...and some don't like it !

I suppose they would prefer a return to the Clinton-Bush-Obama years...

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