Been going on most all of my life and I ain't no spring chicken.

 

It sounds like an overpopulation issue in Atlanta is putting pressure on the rural areas. Limited water resources and no pre existing water rights assigned to farm parcels mean the first come first served water law in the Eastern US would allow upstream users to suck the rivers dry. It sounds as the courts are saying Atlanta is taking their water, legally.

 

Their building a big lake northeast of Bonham, Fannin County, Texas.
Been fought in the courts for years over "Imminent Domain" concerning thousands of acres.
The people lost, the lake dam is under construction.
The water pipeline is huge, and under construction, and its headed to "Dallas, Texas".

 

Big city people have to water their lawns and fill their swimming pools - those have priority over farmers "wasting" water to grow food!

 

I'm surprised that greenie environmental laws haven't been used. Large scale water diversion has big environmental impacts.

 

The greenies don't have the same clout as the land developers. The regulators get captured by those they regulate over time (political influence) and continue to permit development in areas where there is not sufficient water and wastewater treatment capacity. Then crisis spurs large scale water development projects and rural areas take a backseat to big money. The lawsuits are the last ditch efforts to turn the clock back. And on it goes...

 

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It's the leftists' fault. They made other states so miserable to live in, that much of those states' population has fled to places like Florida and Georgia !
As a result..both Georgia and Florida have to build more residences and find more water to accommodate the rising population. This also causes more blacktop to be laid..insuring that more of the rain will just be 'runoff' !

That the lefties did it, may seem a bit far fetched for some... but it is not near so far fetched as some things that left accuses our president of.

 

Texas and NM got into an argument about water rights once. NM was hogging up the water in the Pecos river.
And Texas downstream wanted to put a stop to that. If I remember correctly Texas won the case.

 

Let me guess how that happened. Scenario. Leader from Texas walks into leader from New Mexico’s office and asks his secretary if she had ever seen a dead man before. She responds no. He says. Well. You are about too...

 

Actually it was a long drawn out lawsuit which Texas won in the case of the Pecos river. I don't know whether the judge in the case was just stupid or bought off or maybe a little of both. He awarded Texas more water than the river can deliver. Texas isn't above trying to steal our water either. El Paso was going to drill numerous wells in NM to supplement their water supply several years ago. That also went to court and NM won that one. Texas also won the lawsuit on the Rio Grand and Fat Bill Richardson had Elephant Butte Lake pretty much drained to satisfy the court although he had no legal standing to do so as the water in the lake belongs to the farmers that are in the water district that borrowed the money and built the dam. He was taken to court and found to be in the wrong. What happened? Nothing except some lawyers made some money. The judge in the case said it was already done so it was all water under the bridge so to speak and nothing was done to Fat Bill as has always been the case. Now there is a fuss from Texas because farmers along the Rio Grand are irrigating with well water to supplement what they are allowed from Elephant Butte and they say that is cutting down the river flow.


I once had a lady in the Pecos, TX area tell me that NM had destroyed the farmers in that area because of the river water. This was in the seventies and everything was irrigated by DEEP wells. When the cost of energy went through the roof there went the farming because it couldn't sustain the costs of pumping water. The Pecos has never delivered the amount of water needed to sustain all those farms.

 

Thanks for the update I couldn't remember what it was all about. But Brantley is getting awfully low. But so is Red Bluff.
Not much moister this winter. Been kinda warm so far.

 

You know O&S, that all sounds like our space port circus.

 

New Mexico did the same thing with the Canadian River into Texas.

 

I live and have fished in the Chattahoochee. It is now polluted with Atlanta's sewage. I would not eat the fish out of the river any more. They have high concentrations of toxins. Atlanta is routinely fined for pollution of the Chattahoochee. They pay the fine because they said it was cheaper than building new sewage facilities.

The Atlanta area has grown so much since I was a kid. I hate going there or through there anymore. Only go to take or pick up family that fly out of Hartsfield.

I would much rather go through Birmingham.

 

Is the chatahoochie near Atlanta? Where is it polluted that badly? I thought problems like that with sewage were a thing of the past.

I have done alright driving past Atlanta on a Sunday morning on the beltway. Would not want to be there any other time. If you don't like bad drives like that, never ever ever ever ever go near Chicago.

 

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Want some water? It seems like we always have far more than we need.. It seems like our drouths, are about like normal days in some places.
As the water supply tightens in some places, we may have to take some lessons from Israel, since they have made the desert bloom over there..


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Well then. My way would have worked...

 

We've always said that when someone in Atlanta flushes their toilet three of our fish die....,..


I did read that finally a judge in Atlanta is making the city clean up and stop the sewage. I know that the city had to pay huge daily fines, but figured it was cheaper to pay the fine than fix the problem..... But it will be a very long time before anything gets accomplished.

 

Just remember: It's always better to be upstream, upwind and upslope when it comes to clean air and water.

 

I was at a paper mill years ago in New York state right next to the Hudson.
Was told the fish were a nono, as General Electric had dumped carcinogens into the river, that were cancer causing.

 

When I lived in upstate NY I would not fish, swim nor touch Hudson River water. Although in the winter crossing the bridge at Kingston I always thought that the ice breakers were interesting......