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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 08-09-2019, 09:51 PM Thread Starter
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Default Secret sauce for loading cast bullets for Freedom Arms revolvers

Does anybody else have problems when reloading cast bullets for their FA revolvers?

I've been loading for many years and thought I had it down pat. But I have not been able to load cast bullets to seat in my mod 97 .357. Jacketed bullets work like a charm.

I swage all the cast bullets to ensure they are .357" and I seat and crimp separately to ensure I don't get shavings protruding out the case. My cases are all sized an I put a little flare on them so I don't shave the bullet.

I had the same issues with a 454 Casull and 500 WE.

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No I've never had a problem with cast in either of those I've had in .454 Casull, .45 LC or .44 Magnum. Most of what I shot in all three were cast.



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Out of a dozen plus different cast bullets in 454, 475 & 50ae, have had a problem with only 1 sized .476. I would have to look at box for mould # but it was a 350g WFN PB. It would also stick in chamber ever so slightly.

I used to get alot of excellent bullets from Pennys in CA before he passed, this was only one had issues with out of box, need to investigate more sometime, only used a few of those.
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Never an issue for me.
I do use the Lee FCD with the second carbide size ring.
OP-Can you push a bullet through the throat of the cyl in each chamber?
What bullet is giving you these issues?
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Just investigated a bit on my seating issue... with this bullet, I found that when sizing with RCBS die it is a tighter seating but with Hornady(I normally use now) die it is improved but still snug.

So thinking on mine, perhaps these RCBS dies were built when 475 Linebaugh was still a wildcat with slightly different dims, remember building a few out of 45/70 cases a long time ago, and turned the rims too. Now have Hndy, Starline/BuffBore cases in stock.

Now need to figure out why WFN is a tighter fit in chamber. However, with RCBS die, if ever need a extra tight neck this may be a good way to go.... full length size with HORNADY die, then neck size with RCBS?

Had been using Hndy more because of taper to roll crimp(at end).

Have not cast my own yet, BTW but do have a few moulds and buckets of lead... need to acquire some more too.
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Get you mic out and measure the expander dia on those dies.
With lead bullets, you only want .002-.003 smaller expander dia than the bullet dia.
That keeps one from deforming the bullet nose when seating.
Like I said before-Can you push just the bullet through the throat of the chamber?
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Just curious, what brass are you using?
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W-W that I bought some 20+ yrs ago when I got my FA .454.
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OP-Can you push a bullet through the throat of the cyl in each chamber?
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Well if I push real hard, I can get them into the cylinder throat. Through the throats require a short dowel an a light brass hammer.

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What bullet is giving you these issues?
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I use 158 gr Keith style flat nose that is 358" I source from Rogers. I like Rogers because they're very hard. I use a .357" Lee Swage die to swage them.



Is it possible that the bullets "expand back" a little after swaging? The bullets on the larger calibers were a little stiff, but not like that on my .357. It's never really been an issue because I've been using Hornady XTPs for hunting, but I have been shooting the little 97 so much that I wanted to use cast to cut down on costs.

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Try .356 dia.
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