Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo? - Graybeard Outdoors
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-06-2007, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 188
Default Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Does anyone know?
Ridge Runner is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-07-2007, 01:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Alaska & Florida
Posts: 10,333
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

I've fired a lot of military ball ammo in my belgium browning blr. Worked for me. Regards, Byron

Byron

Christian by choice, American by the grace of God.

NRA LIFE, Trump for 2020
pastorp is online now  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-08-2007, 09:35 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,598
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

.308 Win, .308, 7.62 NATO, & .308 NATO are all different names for the same cartridge.

The NATO cartridges are limited, in the number & type of bullets loaded by the factory/arsenals, while the commercial loads are available in a wide variety.

The same basic case was also used to make the commercial .243 Win, .260 Win, 7mm-08, .338 Federal, and the .358 Win. - and untold numbers of wildcat cartridges.

Rangr44 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-09-2007, 12:34 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: U.S.S.A.
Posts: 870
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Stay away from using 7.62 milsurp ammo in your commercial gun---its intended for military rifles.

Tried using some in an A-bolt---was so hot I had to hammer the bolt open---1st and only round I put in my commercial rifle-----worked just fine with Federal .308 right after that.
Omaha-BeenGlockin is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-16-2007, 02:34 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Alaska & Florida
Posts: 10,333
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Omaha, I respectfully disagree. I believe something else caused your problem. I have fired thousands of military ball ammo loads in commercial 308 rifles.

On the contrary the problem can occur with firring commercial ammo in military guns, such as the grands and m14,m1a1 models. They were designed for 150gr loads at very specific pressures.

Regards, Byron

Byron

Christian by choice, American by the grace of God.

NRA LIFE, Trump for 2020
pastorp is online now  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-16-2007, 05:13 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,633
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

He............. he I love this ;D

The 7.62x51 nato has some different dimensions let alone pressure to the .308 Winchester IF the chambers are cut to specs. However it seems that manufactureers now fudge the specs. Whether this is to make is safer to shoot either? It's a bit like Winchester 30-30 brass not being made to specs with the head undersize ??? why they do this? I don't know but they do. Remington Brass is often the same as RP .303 beass is also undersized on the head. now if they do with with brass is a pretty safe bet the also play around with other specs. I wonder why they bother with specifications at all :-\.

However Win .308 is not the same a 7.63x51 nato. Find the cartridge drawings and compare them.
Brithunter is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-17-2007, 12:18 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Alaska & Florida
Posts: 10,333
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Well Brithunter maybe on your little island they are different, but the Hodgdon reloading manual #26 on page 340 it says they are the same. The only difference I'm aware of would be case thickness, so you back off a couple of grains of powder with the military case.The outside dimensions are as close as any cartridge is from run to run or brand to brand. Regards, Byron

Byron

Christian by choice, American by the grace of God.

NRA LIFE, Trump for 2020
pastorp is online now  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-17-2007, 04:54 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,633
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

I am afraid that Hodgdons is not always right just like Cartridges of The World also has errors in it. Also Winchester does not always make their own cases to the proper specification. This subject has been hashed and re-hashed so many times it's almost like the Kennedy theories. Yes mil-spec brass is ususally heavier I assume to handle being rammed through semi autos however the neck and shoulder ARE different as are the pressures I have alos often wonder why SAAMI altered the spec of some old European cases which had been around a long time before SAAMI came into being.
Brithunter is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-17-2007, 12:25 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Alaska & Florida
Posts: 10,333
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Sounds like you better get busy writing a loading manual that will "put it all right again". Regards, Byron

The sun comes early on your side of the pond don't it.

Byron

Christian by choice, American by the grace of God.

NRA LIFE, Trump for 2020
pastorp is online now  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-17-2007, 04:56 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,633
Default Re: Will a Browning BLR take .308 NATO & .308 WIN ammo?

Hmmm would not say early but we are ahead of the US time wise. Of course dawn is another matter as we are a long way north and I don't live in the far north of England. Most folks don't realize just how far north the British Isles really are.
Brithunter is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Graybeard Outdoors forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome